Can anyone give me info on these?

[JMStevens]

Any info greatly appreciated! Thanks

[Newbie]

They appear to be deactivated trench art.

[Eric Zentner]

The U.M.C looks like a Hotchkiss cartridge case to me but not sure?

Eric

[crites1234]

amazing what someone can do with an old shell

[zwerge]

The U.M.C looks like a Hotchkiss cartridge case to me but not sure?

Eric

I think you`r right Eric,we need the exact length in millimeters of the cases only,and the inside diameters of the case necks,also in MM. Then maybe they can be ID`d.

[JMStevens]

The U.M.C is 306 mm from bottom of case to top, inside neck diameter of case is 60mm. Smaller case is 95 mm bottom to top of case , inside neck 40mm. Thank you.

[TonyE]

The smaller case is a French 37mm M1885 for the Hotchkiss revolveing cannon and the WWI Puteaux trench gun.

It was made in August 1916 (8-16) at the Parc D'artillerie de Paris.

The longer one is I think the 1 1/2 pr."Heavy" Hotchkiss.

Regards
TonyE

[zwerge]

The longer one is a USN 57mmx307Rmm 6PDR. Hotchkiss case....Pete.