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A Growing Collection of Cartridge Cases & Inert Rounds

Article about: Most of this, I've previously posted in the Battlefield Archaeology area - but probably of more interest / relevance here! I have always been interested in weapons / ordnance & so have s

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    Default A Growing Collection of Cartridge Cases & Inert Rounds

    Half of this, I've previously posted in a Battlefield Archaeology thread - but probably of more interest / relevance here!

    I have always been interested in weapons / ordnance & so have slowly acquired a few spent cases & inert rounds through various means... Many are fairly recent but hopefully of interest anyway?

    A Growing Collection of Cartridge Cases & Inert Rounds

    The 3x charger clips of .303" in the top row (& the few 'bright' cases below) were fired from the 'sporterised' Lee-Enfield No4 that I owned when I lived in the States. Cheapest stuff I could get was Iraqi government surplus - some of which appears to have been made in 1938!

    On the bottom row, the .338 cases came back from a tour in Afghanistan. There, for the first time in my experience, troops were allowed to bring back a limited amount of spent 'brass', providing they had a 'Free From Explosives' chit; whether they were 7.62mm turned into cufflinks or 105mm arty cases

    The 3x 'old' .303" may have been 'dug', along with the .45ACP case further to the right; .303" are 1916, 1942 & 1943 dated with .45 ACP bearing a headstamp typical of early WW2 UK issue. The case mouths are slightly eroded & they were very tarnished (although much improved by a bath in ketchup!) but impossible to tell for sure since came via eBay. Assorted 5.56 & 7.62 NATO (blank cartridge & empty cases), more .303", plus 9mm stuff were in the same lot too.

    The 7.62x39 Russian (3x blanks & an empty case - Chinese & N Korean made respectively) were picked up when I was on a training team out in Africa

    Some selected headstamps from these are shown below.
    (7.92 'Kurz' - not shown in pic above - is a purchased inert round):

    A Growing Collection of Cartridge Cases & Inert Rounds

    Finally are some more recent Drill & Inert purchases. I generally prefer to gather my collection items myself but I snapped these up from Dealers cheap / 'in bulk' / because they are relatively uncommon types that I was unlikely to stumble across... Main pic: .303", 7.62x51 NATO & 9mm Para Drill Rounds Inset (clockwise from L): .55" Boys charger clip, 9mm Makarov training x2, SP3 Russian silent (? - case headstamped Mauser), .300 Blackout, 7.62 NATO L42A1 'Match' x5, Greener Police 14 Gauge:

    A Growing Collection of Cartridge Cases & Inert Rounds
    (Apologies for slight scale mismatch - I've tried to get inset close to main pic based on 7.62)
    Last edited by brickie501; 02-02-2019 at 07:27 AM.

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    Those 338 are pretty beefy. For snipers?
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    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Those 338 are pretty beefy. For snipers?
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    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Thanks for all the likes & other interest so far!

    I've realised (because I was concentrating on WW2 rounds for the other thread) the first picture above is quite an old overview of my collection!

    I haven't got an up to date photo of everything because its not all in the same place at the moment (hence 'composite' picture of recent additions) … therefore a few parts of my collection have been missed out above!

    So, with apologies for the 'overlap', here is a newer photo of the main collection, showing a few more items (mainly large calibre "Small Arms" cartridges & 'packaging' parts) that I have:

    A Growing Collection of Cartridge Cases & Inert Rounds

    Top (L to R): Signal Flare pack (empty), 40mm GMG Practice x2, 37mm 'Baton Gun' blank & "Rubber Bullets", 105mm Light Gun primer (vent tube cut off), 3" Mortar fuse covers x2, trays for 9mm Para rounds.

    Bottom (far left): 30mm Apache 'Area Weapon System' cases x2. (far right): various (smoke & practice) Grenade pins, .22" LR boxes.

    (Before anyone asks, yes - there is a bit of 'Photoshop' going on, I made a more compact picture having cropped out some items irrelevant to this thread )


    And, for completeness, some misc bits & bobs bookended by "Trench Art" from two British Army Campaigns 90 years apart! The "Souvenir from Poperinge" match box case came from a late relative's house but the .338 Cufflinks & 30mm RADEN case "Shot Glass" are mine :

    A Growing Collection of Cartridge Cases & Inert Rounds

    Can I coin the term "FOB Art" for the modern stuff? OK, mine were made in Camp BASTION but "Trenches" aren't where we're at these days )
    Last edited by brickie501; 02-02-2019 at 10:02 AM.

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    Default Recent Acquisitions

    Few more items added to my collection The holster, 'magazines' (larger one is actually for Vent Tubes to fire tank main gun) & cartridges (less 40mm GMG cases) were all picked up at a "4x4 & Vintage" autojumble yesterday... the rest from eBay over last few weeks

    A Growing Collection of Cartridge Cases & Inert Rounds

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    Question Charger / Stripper Clip Identification Request

    I've just acquired (eBay) some charger / 'stripper' clips for my collection

    It was fairly straightforward to find out more about the first...

    DWM (Berlin - Borsigwalde) manufactured "Ladestreifen 3c" clip:

    A Growing Collection of Cartridge Cases & Inert Rounds

    I've refurbished it with a replacement 'spring clip' (since the original crumbled away) & it's displayed here holding my inert post-War 7.92x33 round (7.62 NATO clip in background for comparison).


    The second is a clip for the MAS 36 (or Gewehr 242(F) since this one was allegedly for these French rifles captured & in German service):

    A Growing Collection of Cartridge Cases & Inert Rounds

    I've been searching for info but drawn a bit of a blank on this one (since must references show what I assume are post-War clips, more obviously marked with 'MAS' & other info ). My question is, can anyone decipher the markings for a date or place of production for this one?

    Many thanks in advance!

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    Hi,LM is the maker...Atelier de Construction du Mans,France....2-38 is the date,the second quarter of 1938,and DF or is it DE can`t tell,is the metal supplier,could be ..Societe Electrometallurgique de Dives,France.....Pete.
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    Thanks Pete

    It is an F rather than an E

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