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World War 1 88mm case

Article about: Hi all, My travelling salesman called round to my house with some new shells for me. One of them is a 1914 dated 88. It is made from steel with a brass base. The dimensions match the shells

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    Hi all,
    My travelling salesman called round to my house with some new shells for me. One of them is a 1914 dated 88. It is made from steel with a brass base. The dimensions match the shells used on first world war u-boat deck guns
    It is nearly the same dimensions as my WW2 88mm flak case. I have photographed them together so they can be compared.
    Regards to all, Simon.
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    Hey, that's cool Simon- I had no idea the 8,8cm was so old an ammunition type. I guess the Imperial guys would be able to say if the crown and 'M' at the top indicates it's a Navy weapon? That might explain why it's not so well-known as its WWII counterpart- if it was only used on ships; it surely wasn't a widely-used anti-aircraft weapon like it was later. The later weapon's designation of Flak18 always suggested it was a purpose-designed very late-war AA gun, but it must be an adaptation of an earlier Naval gun?
    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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    Thanks Matt. From what I understand, the 8.8cm gun that this shell was from is a completely different gun to the more famous 8.8cm from later years.
    I was over the moon when this turned up at my door for the expensive price of 16
    Regards to all, Simon.

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    Any 'Imperial guys' got any thoughts on this shell?
    Thanks in advance, Simon.

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    shadowwolf, indeed a shell for the 8.8cm Ubts L/30 Schnelladekanone, developed by Krupp in 1898, originally for river and coastal gunboats. During WW1 it became the standard U-Boat armament. As you have said bears no resemblence to the '88' of WW2 fame. I would imagine this to be a rare piece, well worth 16 !
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    oradour,
    Thanks for the comments. What sort of value would you put on this shell?
    Regards, Simon.

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    Simon, sorry for late reply....value, thats a toughy !...I must admit that i dont know, I have never seen one for sale before !.....I have a small collection of shell cases, mostly 77mm, a couple of larger calibre cases....but nothing quite as grand as your 88, its got to be rare (especially associated with WW1 U-Boats), so at a guess, a collector would pay over 100+.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    oradour,
    Thanks for the reply. Flak 88 shells in ok condition sell for about 60, so your estimate of 100+ for a WW1 U-boat deck cannon shell is what I like to hear. Mind you its not for sale, its not my favourite shell, that would have to be my 20mm Flak or the 88 Flak, but I am very proud to own it
    Thanks for your help. Oh, if another one turns up I'll let you have first refusal on it
    Regards, Simon.

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    Simon,
    Some people just have all the luck! Any chance of an introduction to your deliveryman?
    Cheers,
    Guy.

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    Hi Guy,
    He gets alot of militaria all the time, I buy some of it, I'll have a chat with him and, as long as he agrees, see what he can get for you. He travels the country visiting estate sale auctions, he buys and sells a lot of different collectables. What are you after, and I'll ask him? He only charges a few pounds on top of the original cost, ie my shell only cost him a tenner, and he added on the other six pounds
    Regards, Simon.

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