Panzerkampfabzeichen, Spanienkreuz....Are These Legit?

[bigmacglenn]

Hi Guys,
I need your expertise as to whether these are real or not...Unfortunately, these are the only photos available.
I appreciate ANY input and info! Glenn

[roger9344]

Although I am by no means an expert, I'd have to say based on what I can find to compare the Panzersturmabzeichen with, that it is not an original. Starting with the lack of detail on the head (as far as I can tell from the photograph), the chest feathers, the wing feathers and the leg feathers do not appear right to me. The turret details don't look clear, the tank treads appear as barbells, and the terrain beneath the tank has no detail. Additionally, the leaves in the wreath have no internal detail and their shape doesn't appear to be correct. The clasp at the junction at the bottom of the wreath does not appear to resemble any of the others I have been able to locate.

Again, I am just starting, but have been looking very closely at this award since it is one that I want for my collection.

I have not studied the Spanienkreuz and therefore have no opinion as to its status.

If I am wrong, I will gladly listen to any criticism.

With trepidation,

[bigmacglenn]

Thank you for your input. These are from the same seller, and I was already suspicious...

[rube233]

Sorry, but my opinion is the same on Panzer badge.....Not the worse fake I have seen! But still I dont like it. And the Spanish Cross is all bad! Lacks any detail the originals show! Sorry.

Joe

[bigmacglenn]

Thanks guys...Add those 2 to our database of fakes!

[Adrian Stevenson]

Re the Spanienkreuz: note the early droop tail design Luftwaffe eagles. These were never used on this award.

Cheers, Ade.

[cricketchris1944]

I have seen this first badge somewhere,and has been for sale for a long time.on a website I can not remenber where.