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Feldpost Number Reference.......... Q?

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    Allan Williams
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    Hello All,
    Google has led me to your wonderful little corner of the world, which looks like the right place for many things.
    I'm currently trying to research the history of 2cm Flak 38 which a museum has had in storage since the war.
    It has the numbers 36876 on the upper right shield and on the back of the computer targetting assembly. It was captured in North Africa which hopefully helps reduce the possibilities a bit. The museum has very little information on the piece otherwise.
    Reading over some of the posts regarding Feldpost numbers, I've seen Adrian, John, Lars etc quote some quite specific information. What sources are you using for this? Is there any literature, websites or otherwise that you could possibly direct me towards?
    Thanks in advance for any light anyone might shed on this and I look forward to contributing wherever possible within my very limited scope.
    Cheers
    Allan

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    Hi Allan, welcome to the forum!

    Moving onto the Feldpost issue. There is no online reference. But I have a CD rom which has the majority of the numbers issued on it.

    Sounds like a very interesting exhibit your museum has, given the history behind it. I have not heard of an item of ordnance being stampted with a FP number before? I strongly believe this is not an FP number in this case. The units don't fit. But here are the details for that number anyway:

    36876

    (28.4.1940-19.9.1940) B.d.U., dann Marine-Intendantur-Dienststelle Molde,

    (1.3.1942-7.9.1942) gestrichen, wurde Fp.Nr. 30022 C,

    (8.9.1943-22.4.1944) 13.1.1944 Stab u. 1.-4. Kompanie ital. Stellungs-Bau-Pionier-Bataillon 133,

    (8.9.1943-22.4.1944) 21.4.1944 gestrichen, wurde Fp.Nr. 80487,

    (25.11.1944-Kriegsende) 21.3.1945 Stab u. 1.-3. Kompanie Feldausbildungs-Bataillon I Generalkommando Oder.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    OKW
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    Would the number on the shield identify that only that targetting computer should be used with that gun, it being caliberated for that gun only, rather like the breech block only being useful for one particular weapon? If the computer was removed for transit of the weapon and you had a battery of six pieces it would speed up the time to action if you could readily identify the pieces to computers.

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    I think that sounds much more likely explanation.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    There is now an on-line reference sources for Feldpost Numbers...

    Stempel Datenbank
    - just type your FpNr in the final box (oder Nummer eines Nummernstempels).

    ...however it does not list any numbers below 10000.

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    Allan Williams
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    Maybe this thread should be moved to the 'Ordinance/ Panzer' section in light of what you've said Adrian.
    My original thoughts were along the same lines as OKW's. Identifying numbers to keeps a specific piece's components together in situations where they have to be removed for transport, maintenance etc. Although I doubt this would be for any particular calibration reasons. Particularly on the Flak 38, all 3 types of sighting equipment are mounted with a simple hook and clamp and the shields certainly don't need to be calibrated.
    Also, the weapon in question only has this number on the targetting assembly ( which is removable) and one of the shields ( also removable). I can't see it anywhere on the laffette which, with this logic, would make it the most pertinent place to put it seeing as this is what all these other peripherals are attached to.
    Here are photos of the numbers on the weapon I'm referring to.





    This is back of the computor assembly showing the Spec Plate. As you can see, the serial number is nothing like the other, which you could safely assume they would be if they were related.



    Here is another Flak 38 (late) with a similar 5 digit number, although illegible.



    And a Flak 30 with only 4 digit number used but obviously for the same purpose.



    Which really just brings me back to the original question that got me onto the feldpost number to begin with, what is the significance or these numbers and what do they say? Do they serve a similar purpose to those on Panzers?
    Thankyou all for your responses, it's refreshing to see people who care about details of such things.

    Allan

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    Phillip
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    Good evening Adrian,

    Just found your answer regarding Feldpost numbers. A friend of fathers was captured at Calais in 1940 and sent to a POW camp. My Mother received a postcard from him quoting a "feldpost" number 19401 A

    Trying to find out the name of the camp

    Can you help??

    Regards

    Phillip

    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    Hi Allan, welcome to the forum!

    Moving onto the Feldpost issue. There is no online reference. But I have a CD rom which has the majority of the numbers issued on it.

    Sounds like a very interesting exhibit your museum has, given the history behind it. I have not heard of an item of ordnance being stampted with a FP number before? I strongly believe this is not an FP number in this case. The units don't fit. But here are the details for that number anyway:

    36876

    (28.4.1940-19.9.1940) B.d.U., dann Marine-Intendantur-Dienststelle Molde,

    (1.3.1942-7.9.1942) gestrichen, wurde Fp.Nr. 30022 C,

    (8.9.1943-22.4.1944) 13.1.1944 Stab u. 1.-4. Kompanie ital. Stellungs-Bau-Pionier-Bataillon 133,

    (8.9.1943-22.4.1944) 21.4.1944 gestrichen, wurde Fp.Nr. 80487,

    (25.11.1944-Kriegsende) 21.3.1945 Stab u. 1.-3. Kompanie Feldausbildungs-Bataillon I Generalkommando Oder.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Quote by Phillip View Post
    Good evening Adrian,

    Just found your answer regarding Feldpost numbers. A friend of fathers was captured at Calais in 1940 and sent to a POW camp. My Mother received a postcard from him quoting a "feldpost" number 19401 A

    Trying to find out the name of the camp

    Can you help??

    Regards

    Phillip
    It won't relate to the camp seeing as the Allies didn't use the German Feldpost system. It will relate to a German unit.

    19401 =

    (Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) 6. Kompanie Infanterie-Regiment 313,
    (2.1.1940-27.4.1940) gestrichen, wurde Fp.Nr. 09266 C,
    (12.7.1941-26.1.1942) Stab u. 1.-3. Kompanie Kriegsgefangenen-Bau- u. Arbeits-Bataillon 21,
    (25.1.1943-31.7.1943) gestrichen,
    (24.3.1944-6.11.1944) 1.8.1944 Stab u. 1.-4. Kompanie Sicherungs-Bataillon 1024.

    ...with the 'A' indicating that he served in the Stab.

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    Phillip
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    Good evening Hucks 216,

    Sorry I didnt explain myself properly.

    My Father and his freind were part of the British Rifle Brigade. His friend was part of the 1st Battalion who were sent to Calais to protect the flank of Dunkirk during the summer of 1940. Most of the men of the 1st Battalion were either killed or captured. My Dad's friend was captured and in May 1942 sent a postcard to my Mum which bore a Feld Post Number of 19401 A. I was hoping that this would give a clue as to the name and location of the German POW Camp, that he was held at.

    I hope this clarifies my question.

    Regards

    Phillip


    Quote by hucks216 View Post
    It won't relate to the camp seeing as the Allies didn't use the German Feldpost system. It will relate to a German unit.

    19401 =

    (Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) 6. Kompanie Infanterie-Regiment 313,
    (2.1.1940-27.4.1940) gestrichen, wurde Fp.Nr. 09266 C,
    (12.7.1941-26.1.1942) Stab u. 1.-3. Kompanie Kriegsgefangenen-Bau- u. Arbeits-Bataillon 21,
    (25.1.1943-31.7.1943) gestrichen,
    (24.3.1944-6.11.1944) 1.8.1944 Stab u. 1.-4. Kompanie Sicherungs-Bataillon 1024.

    ...with the 'A' indicating that he served in the Stab.

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    Well it would certainly fit in with the 3rd one down on the listing I gave ((12.7.1941-26.1.1942) Stab u. 1.-3. Kompanie Kriegsgefangenen-Bau- u. Arbeits-Bataillon 21) as that is a PoW Construction & Labour Battalion, but I don't have any files or know of any databases which will list where Kriegsgefangenen-Bau- u. Arbeits-Bataillon 21 was based.

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