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Need opinions on some SS feldpost!

Article about: So I found some SS feldpost for sale and wanted to check your opinon about it. I find one part of the description a little bit odd: "Interesteing to note that on several of the earlier

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    So I found some SS feldpost for sale and wanted to check your opinon about it. I find one part of the description a little bit odd: "Interesteing to note that on several of the earlier letters, Born gives his rank simply as Soldat with no SS-prefix.". Would be great if someone with better knowledge then me can check the pictures and description too se if there is any "buried dog" here.. Thanks!


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    "Up again, this group was on hold but buyer seems to have vanished and on top of that, the ad was removed despite only marked "on hold"......

    So here we go again: A group of 19 feldpostletters from/to Karl Born. 16 envelopes are complete with letters, the other 3 are only the envelopes.

    First letter is dated 30 september 1940 and the last is dated 28 july 1943. At that time Born had been promoted to SS-Rottenführer.

    Feldpostnumbers indicate Born served with Panzer Abwehr Sturm/SS Standarte Deutschland + 13./SS-Regt. Deutschland and finally with Regimentsstab/SS-Regt. Deutschland, all units of the SS-verfügungstruppe/SS-Div. Das Reich.

    Interesteing to note that on several of the earlier letters, Born gives his rank simply as Soldat with no SS-prefix."



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    Anyone?

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    Looks good to me.

    Did you check the feldpostno. yourself?

    Cheers!
    Mads

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    I saw this earlier and was about to drop you a line. Looks nice, although I have only seen the group shot. Ask for individual scans / high quality images front and back, that should assist.

    Best,

    Carl
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    Thanks for the tip Carl Will ask for individual images of front and back! 19 letters is a good thing for a new translation project.... I am running out of folders for my SS feldpost!

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    Looks like a nice set of original Feldpost !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    21867



    (Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) I.G. Sturm SS-Standarte Deutschland.

    (16.2.1941-18.7.1941) 13.-16. Kompanie u. Kolonne Regiment SS Deutschland,

    dann 13.-16. Kompanie Regiment SS Deutschland.

    (31.7.1942-9.2.1943) 13.-16. Kompanie Regiment SS Deutschland SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Das Reich,

    (10.2.1943-23.8.1943) 13.-16. Kompanie Panzergrenadier-Regiment SS Deutschland (SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Das Reich),

    dann 13. Kompanie Panzergrenadier-Regiment SS Deutschland (SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Das Reich),

    dann 13. Kompanie SS-Grenadier-Regiment Deutschland (Das Reich),

    dann 13.-16. Kompanie SS-Grenadier-Regiment Deutschland (Das Reich),

    (24.8.1943-5.4.1944) 29.10.1943 13.-17. Kompanie SS-Grenadier-Regiment Deutschland (Das Reich),

    (24.8.1943-5.4.1944) 5.2.1944 13.-17. Kompanie Grenadier-Regiment 3 (2. SS-Division),

    (6.4.1944-9.11.1944) 24.6.1944 Regimentsstab u. Einheit Grenadier-Regiment 3 (2. SS-Division).
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    (Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) Stab SS-Standarte Deutschland,

    (16.2.1941-18.7.1941) Regimentsstab SS Deutschland,

    (31.7.1942-9.2.1943) Regimentsstab Regiment SS Deutschland SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Das Reich,

    (10.2.1943-23.8.1943) Regimentsstab Panzergrenadier-Regiment SS Deutschland (SS-Panzergrenadier-Division (Das Reich),

    dann Regimentsstab SS-Grenadier-Regiment Deutschland (Das Reich),

    (24.8.1943-5.4.1944) 5.2.1944 Regimentsstab u. Stabskompanie Panzergrenadier-Regiment 3 (2. SS-Division),

    (6.4.1944-9.11.1944) 24.6.1944 Regimentsstab u. schw. Kompanie Panzergrenadier-Regiment SS-Panzer-Kampfgruppe „Das Reich“.
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    So! I ended up buying the letters, and I have now taken photos of front and back of the covers.

    This is really strange and something I have never came across with SS feldpost before.. I hope that they are not fake, but to be honest I really doubt it. I think there is a different story here.

    I would very much like to know what you think about this odd story.



    So, on the first 7 letters the absender is: SOLDAT Karl Born
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    On the 8:th letter the absender is simply: Karl Born

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    Then on letter 9, 10 and 11 the absender is: SOLDAT Karl Born again

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    Now the weirdest part.. On letter 12 the absender is: GEFREITER Karl Born - Like had a promotion.. Now, Gefreiter is not a SS rank so why would he write Gefreiter if he is in the SS? Is he a wehrmacht soldier fighting with SS or is he faking hes rank because he is embaressed about being in the SS? Or is the letters actually faked SS letters?

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    Now, on letter 13, 14 and 15 he starts to use: SS-Sturmmann Karl Born as absender

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    Letter 16 is adressed to him (I can not make out the absender) and he is adressed as: SS-Sturmmann Karl Born

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    On letter 17 it looks like he's absender is again: SS-Sturmmann Karl Born

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    And on the last letters, letter 18 and 19 the absender is: SS Rottenführer Karl Born

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    So the FP numbers seems to be to SS division Das Reich but I guess they could have been added later, although I think they look genuine.. Also it does not explain why the later letters says SS and why he got a letter adressed to him as SS Sturmmann.. Maybe he was first in the wehrmacht and then joined SS? But it does not explain why he uses SS feldpost numbers.. Please help me clear this one out

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    I would like to see how this one turns out Very interesting my friend.

    Regards, Lars

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