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SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! Display your Third Reich related banknotes/money tokens.

Article about: More images of one of the scarce examples from KL-Flossenburg... This format of Pramienschein was utilised in several KLs. Regards, Carl

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    Hello,

    Thank you everyone for sharing your collection.

    Ok, I'm going to post this canteen token, sorry it's a gloomy item after seeing all the beautiful banknotes and coins. I don't feel confident this token is original and was wondering if anyone knows about these? It has been uv tested and does smell old if that helps. I think it was a risky item to buy for a beginner.

    regards,
    Steffy.

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    These did exist but are highly faked. I believe they were issued to the Kapos not the prisoners.

    I believe Ade has one in his collection

    nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Hello Steffy and thanks for posting your premium coupon. I believe that your token is unfortunately a reproduction of the .50RM second pattern (I have attached an image of one of my first pattern 1RM examples) token that was issued at KZ Buchenwald. The "SS-Ko.Rottleberode" overstamp is the most common sub-camp marking. KZ Buchenwald had approximately 90 sub-camps. The camp scrip at Buchenwald had two distinctive varieties. Firstly, the tokens were marked Aussenkommando (outside work), then latterly without as shown below. As can be seen with the attached example, the original Buchenwald tokens were manufactured using very poor quality paper, hence the poor condition of surviving examples today. More recently produced pieces tend to have sharp, fine edges that like many forged documents, are often artificially aged. They also often display strong colour saturation too, and can be checked by a simple folding of the note. The originals are always very weak, and will flop, whereas reproductions tend to hold their form.

    Regards,

    Carl

    UPDATE: Message sent to member Steffy regarding the above piece. I now believe that the piece shown stands a good chance of being genuine. Scorched edges may be present on original pieces, due to the SS attempting to destroy much of the remaining paperwork prior to the liberation of the camp. Genuine examples do have specific measurements and other characteristics, so the details have been sent to member Steffy. Hopefully, she will be able to confirm that the piece is indeed of the period.
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    Thanks guys. I doesn't feel good to know you have a fake, better now rather than later. Next time if I'm not sure I will post a picture into the forum.

    regards,
    Steffy.

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    Recent additions...

    Two denominations of the premium coupon in circulation at KZ Westerbork. For more information regarding these tokens, and the camp itself, there is a thread within this Paper items forum.

    Regards,

    Carl
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    More Theresienstadt denominations. These pieces, namely the 1Krone and 5Kronen, are amongst the more common denominations. The rarest being the 50Kronen note, which was shown earlier. The denominations were as follows, 1K, 2K, 5K, 10K and then the watermarked 20K, 50K and 100K. Seven in all, often sold as a set by dealers but be wary, many examples sold as a set are from the 1970's reproduction era. Colour saturation is what generally gives the more recent examples away.

    Regards,

    Carl
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    Note the series number on the 1Krone note above, A001. The first of many...

    Below is another example, this time a 2Kronen piece.

    Regards,

    Carl
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    Hi.,

    I share with you, my last purchase (I saw, I just bought).
    However I can not find information about it.
    Only that's a winterhilfswerk paper which earned 5 reichsmark in 1940.

    Regards.,

    Von River

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    WWI 1918 10 Stadt Dren.
    Not third reich but i like it.

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