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Article about: Can anyone confirm if this is the correct signature of Der Fuhrer Regiment Knights Cross Winner SS Obersturmbannfuhrer Vinzenz " Zenz " Kaiser ??

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    Can anyone confirm if this is the correct signature of Der Fuhrer Regiment Knights Cross Winner SS Obersturmbannfuhrer Vinzenz " Zenz " Kaiser ??Click image for larger version. 

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    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Hucks where are you when i need you ??? Been searching through John Moore's Fuhrerliste but to date i haven't managed to find a document signed by Zenz !!
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    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Sorry Paul but I have never seen an example of his signature to compare it to. Can you show the whole document so I can narrow the field down by comparing position and dates etc? It does look like it says 'Kaiser'.

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    Its a promotion document issued by the Stab of DF whilst the recipient was in a Lazerett in Linz afetr being wounded during Kharkov , it comes with a certificate for the Verwundeten Abzeichen in Schwarz issed in April at the lazerett.

    This is the complete doc , position and date fits with his Command of III /DF during the Kharkov fighting but like you i haven't seen an original of his signature and can't locate one anywhere !!

    cheers

    Paul
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    The doc is dated 31/3/43 however have just done some more checking and his personnal file and Yerger gives a date of 20/4/43 as his date for promotion to SS Sturmbannfuhrer .although another doc in the file suggests 1/4/43 as the promotion date , certainly he wasn't offcialy prmoted when this doc was signed but did he know of the promotion and took a liberty , unlikely !!!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    The problem with such documents is that while the dates can indicate when it was typed up it could be days or weeks later before they were actually signed - or they could even be backdated. Maybe he was promoted but it wasn't officially confirmed until 20th May.

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    That's could be the case , certainly he was a Sturmbannfuhrer when the famous set of Kharkov photos were taken in April 43 where he, Kumm, Weiss , Tychsen etc were awarded the Ritterkreuz / Eichenlaub although i can't remember the exact date in April of those awards !
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    6th April 1943.

    Considering he was awarded the NKSiG & RK there will be an entry for him in the book Faces Of Courage.

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    That's it mate , so he was wearing Sturmbannfuhrers rank on that date , i'll have to keep searching for a copy of his signature , i'll get in touch with Horst Herpolsheimer from 11 / DF and see if he will send me a copy of his EK I doc which may have been signed by Kaiser !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Quote by hucks216 View Post
    6th April 1943.

    Considering he was awarded the NKSiG & RK there will be an entry for him in the book Faces Of Courage.
    Checked that one as well gives his promotion date as 20/4/43 but as we know he was wearing the rank on the 6th , no copies of his sig there either unfortunately !
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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