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SS Award Certificate - Infanterie Sturmabzeichen

Article about: Hi, This certificate is named to an SS-Rottenfuhrer and ink stamped "Stamm Battr. I/SS-Art. Ausb. u. Ers. Rgt." A field award in 1944... I would be grateful for your opinons on thi

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    Hi,

    This certificate is named to an SS-Rottenfuhrer and ink stamped "Stamm Battr. I/SS-Art. Ausb. u. Ers. Rgt." A field award in 1944...

    I would be grateful for your opinons on this one, please.

    Many thanks,
    J.
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    Default Re: SS Award Certificate - Infanterie Sturmabzeichen

    What is the paper like it looks like card !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Hi Paul,
    It is paper (holding breath now after the result of the EK1 certificate...)
    Thanks for your help on these
    Cheers,
    J.

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    Looks a bit "funky". However it looks like the stamp is actually stamped onto the paper. Could be a fake stamp. Lot's of them "Made in Poland".

    Wait for more opinions

    Regards, Lars

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    I am not an expert on award documents, but one thing that strikes me as odd is that a Hauptsturmführer [i.e. a Captain] should be a regimental commander.

    If it were just a temporary assignment as acting commander due to losses or transfers of the higher-ups, he would be referred to as "Regimentsführer"; a "Regimentskommandeur" was the regular, appointed commander.

    (Sorry, I don't have any reference material on this regiment, so I cannot make a statement on who its commander was at the time in question.)

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    Andreas makes a good point even in a Field unit the Regiment would have to be decimated for a Hauptsturmfuhrer to be the Regimental Commander and even then would almost certainly be referred to as Regimentsführer until a Regimental Commander was appointed!!

    SS-Artillerie-Ausbildungs- und Ersatz-Regiment (Prag) , this unit was as seen stationed in Praque as was a Training and replacement unit so would have been commanded by an SS Obersturmbannfuhrer or above , another fakers mistake !!
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    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Stamp seems to be average fake from Poland. The only good thing they have is a real pre 1945 typewriter with SS sign.

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    Default Re: SS Award Certificate - Infanterie Sturmabzeichen

    So my "Made in Poland" theory was most likely not far off the target. Good work guys

    Regards, Lars

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    OK, thanks guys. Excellent unravelling of the creation of this thing. I had doubts about this and the EK1 one, hence my posting.

    It's amazing how much knowledge and experience resides among the membership of this forum...an inspiringly helpful community!

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    The paper is very similar to many fakes that arrived in the UK from Poland 3 or 4 years ago hence my asking about it !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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