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    Greetings!
    Please dedicated to wertmarke if I would be able to share more information on these banknotes . I would be interested in their history , origin and use. Why camp of Buchenwald were using special tender for this camp? ? Why not pay in the canteen classic Reichsmarks ? I do not know how many banknotes or subject was generally of these death camps preserved, but the total peculiarity of this bill appeared here in North Bohemia.
    I found it in a book pracovni a lady ktra never been in the camp of Buchenwald , at least according to employment records , which ends in 1947.
    However it does not mean anything because the books were more together , but none has been terminated before the end of the war .
    Please who has any knowledge of these items or knows a link to a website where the history of these notes he writes that he was so kind and wrote here.
    The documents are very insignificant , but rather interested in the cool weapons and optics.
    Finally , I knew someone would collectible value ? Thanks for your response and I apologize for any errors in the text. I write to you through Google translate .
    Sincerely Dandys .
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    Quote by dandys View Post
    Greetings!
    Please dedicated to wertmarke if I would be able to share more information on these banknotes . I would be interested in their history , origin and use. Why camp of Buchenwald were using special tender for this camp? ? Why not pay in the canteen classic Reichsmarks ? I do not know how many banknotes or subject was generally of these death camps preserved, but the total peculiarity of this bill appeared here in North Bohemia.
    I found it in a book pracovni a lady ktra never been in the camp of Buchenwald , at least according to employment records , which ends in 1947.
    However it does not mean anything because the books were more together , but none has been terminated before the end of the war .
    Please who has any knowledge of these items or knows a link to a website where the history of these notes he writes that he was so kind and wrote here.
    The documents are very insignificant , but rather interested in the cool weapons and optics.
    Finally , I knew someone would collectible value ? Thanks for your response and I apologize for any errors in the text. I write to you through Google translate .
    Sincerely Dandys .
    Hi
    These are not banknotes, its a camp token or camp money. They were used to trade inmate values for this currency.
    They were worthless everywhere else, could only be used in the camp perimeter. A far as i know, all the camps had their own token. "If you work harder, you will be payed" therefore these were used as an incentive for labour.

    Our member "Carl" is the specialist on these, he can provide better info.

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    These notes were issued for use inside the Buchenwald Concentration Camp(which was quite large). It was not Technically a "death camp" but rather a large Labor camp in which many inmates did die from the poor conditions and cruelty of the guards. It was one of the very first camps established (1937) and was, in fact, one of the very largest in Germany. The notes were issued in .50,1,2 and 3 Reichsmark denominations. Your note is a 1 Reichsmark denomination and is the "splayed legs" variety. The "M" was printed in both a straight leg and a splayed leg font. Neither are more rare or valuable than the other, but it's just an interesting fact, of course. This series of notes are collectable, naturally, but, unfortunately, the condition of this particular note that you have is fairly low grade. The centerfold tear damaged the value considerably. In this grade, the Selling value would be somewhere in the range of $50 on the low end up to, maybe, $75 on a good day. But, keep in mind, if you intend to sell it to a Dealer, he could not give you this full value, as that would be what He could sell it for himself. He would likely give you half of the value, as this is the norm with coins and currency dealers. You would probably be better off putting it up for sale here on the forum with, say, a $50 price on it.
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    Dobr den Dandys

    William has stated quite correctly above regarding the item you have. Personally, I have many such examples - and actually prefer this heavily worn condition example to the more cleaner pieces that numismatic collectors will seek. Rather than explain in detail about the piece and other similar items, I would suggest you take some time to look at the threads below, where such matters are addressed in detail. Also, a fellow member of the forum and I have recently launched a new website addressing the subject - again, please see below. I should also note that the Buchenwald examples are heavily reproduced...but yours is a genuine example.

    Concentration Camp and Ghetto Currency

    Welcome to concentrationcampmoney.com | concentrationcampmoney.com

    Regards,

    Carl
    Experienced guide and published author leading detailed study trips to the former KZ sites of Nazi Germany. Contact for further details.

    www.concentrationcamptours.com

    www.concentrationcampmoney.com


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    hello!! Thanks to everyone who provided me with valuable information on the topic. Again, I'm a little smarter and how this bill, or camp money, fungovala.Jedno this thread in the past, I accidentally found on the Internet, where they were dealt with ways splayed legs with the letter "M" and also mentioned about the amount of numbers on these bills. You do not know how many of them can be the preserved among collectors? I do not know how in Europe, but in the Czech auction servers or on the forums I have not met.
    Once again thank you and wish you good luck. Sincerely Dandys.

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    Your example is a fairly low number - they ran into tens of thousands (see some of my examples attached below - 46619 and 45629). Only the RM3 example is less common from the Buchenwald series and even they are not "rare". Most of the pieces from Buchenwald that we see are the reproduction RM2 examples - be careful with those. Note the different legs of the "M" on my examples, both straight leg variants.
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    Experienced guide and published author leading detailed study trips to the former KZ sites of Nazi Germany. Contact for further details.

    www.concentrationcamptours.com

    www.concentrationcampmoney.com


    "maka akaŋl oyate maŋi pi ki le, tuweŋi wypeya oki hi sni"

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    Dandys quote "I do not know how many banknotes or subject was generally of these death camps preserved..."

    Wagriff quote "It was not Technically a "death camp" but rather a large Labor camp in which many inmates did die from the poor conditions and cruelty of the guards"

    Just to clarify this point, which is indeed correct, the Buchenwald camp was designated as a Category-II KZ, meaning it was a labour camp with harsher living and working conditions. Dachau, for example, was classed as a category one camp - an Arbeitslager (work camp). Despite the tremendous loss of life at Buchenwald, it is incorrect to use the term "death camp" when referring to such a site as the term should only really be used to designate the extermination camps and camps where the sick and weak were gathered to await the end of their days.

    Regarding camp currency and its use within "death camps", some will argue that examples existed at Auschwitz, which was a death camp. However, Auschwitz was actually both a death camp and labour camp - Auschwitz-II Birkenau was the site of the mass extermination facilities, yet also the scene of a huge camp with thousands of exploited workers. The categorisation of the concentration camps is not a plain and straightforward matter (over fifty classes and categorisations existed).

    Note: although it is incorrect to use the death camp term when addressing sites such as Dachau and Buchenwald, it should not be underestimated just how abhorrent these sites actually still were - tens of thousands died at these sites and the modern argument over terminology does little to reflect their torment and suffering.
    Experienced guide and published author leading detailed study trips to the former KZ sites of Nazi Germany. Contact for further details.

    www.concentrationcamptours.com

    www.concentrationcampmoney.com


    "maka akaŋl oyate maŋi pi ki le, tuweŋi wypeya oki hi sni"

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    Very interesting Item. I have not seen those before.

    Dean O

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    I have several of these. I'm not home so can't look at my list, but I have several different of this camp and another camp or 2.
    These are not a commonly found item.
    Sarge

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    If you collect paper moneys, the Buchenwald notes are probably about the most commonly seen of any of the camp notes. There are always several being offered on eBay at any given time and on several of the other bank note sellers inventorys also. There are a couple of varieties of these available. Some have "Aussenkommando" diagonally over the face of them with overstamped inked markings beneath reading "SS Ko.Rottelberode" .
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    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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