Two pilot photo identify

**xedos6** · 04-14-2019, 06:41 AM

Hello everyone!

I've just bought this two photos at a Numismatic exchange. They are both reproduction or reprint after the war by the Potsdam archives. Both has a stamp on it's back, and one with a swastika stamp, which I think a bogus stamp.

My question is, can someone tell me who they are in the picture? Especially the one with the knight's cross with swords? And maybe there's a chance to tell more about the another one with the Bf109 marked with a rooster?

Thanks for any help

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 04-14-2019 06:41 AM

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**zwerge** · 04-14-2019, 03:05 PM

The pilot with the cross looks like Hans Joachim Marseille.....Pete.

**xedos6** · 04-14-2019, 03:24 PM

by zwerge

The pilot with the cross looks like Hans Joachim Marseille.....Pete.

I thought it's "Bubi" (Erich Hartmann)

But if you say Marseille, that's fine

Any ideas?

**zwerge** · 04-14-2019, 03:51 PM

For the other pilot look at this thread......Me 109 `s in Russia ...I think your right the first pilot is Hartmann..

**xedos6** · 04-14-2019, 07:17 PM

by zwerge

For the other pilot look at this thread......Me 109 `s in Russia ...I think your right the first pilot is Hartmann..

Looked at the linked thread, and found this picture:

The pilot looks quite similar to my picture too. His hair, nose especially. (Okay.. the hair

Different army hairstyles of course were in fashion in those days) But, devil hides in the details, so.. on your picture, the rooster is in a shield, on mine it's in a circle. Don't know