Pre-war Badge thread

**GIJunny** · 10-19-2013, 09:37 PM

Thanks for the info. I'll explain a little better what I'm looking for. I am an American soldier who was deployed in a place with Poles and qualify with your Berril 5.56mm and they with our M4 and we qualificamos as Expert Marksmanship by the Polish Army.

**A.J. Zawadzki** · 10-19-2013, 10:14 PM

OK, so if I understand correctly you are after a modern Polish Army marksmanship badge. This forum does not focus on current Polish Armed Forces militaria, so I'm afraid that I cannot help you other than offering these two images I found on the web.

US soldiers receive Polish marksmanship badges | Article | The United States Army

Polish Afghan Deployment - Page 73

Out of curiosity, were you not issued a badge after your marksmanship training?

Regards,
Tony

**A.J. Zawadzki** · 10-20-2013, 06:17 AM

by andrzejku98

Just to let you know newly listed on Allegro silver Border Guards Badge, link below:

Odzn. Stra

Let's post the pics of this fine example for posterity:

Cheers,
Tony

**prosty zolnierz** · 11-05-2013, 04:59 PM

Knowledge share with this one. friend came around this afternoon seeking info. on this badge. appears to have the Lady's head hallmark and manufacturers logo but I would have thought it should be of a better quality. sitting on the fence at the moment.

**kosa** · 11-06-2013, 12:30 AM

by prosty zolnierz

Knowledge share with this one. friend came around this afternoon seeking info. on this badge. appears to have the Lady's head hallmark and manufacturers logo but I would have thought it should be of a better quality. sitting on the fence at the moment.

It's ok. It's silver. WG stands for Wiktor Gontarczyk. Is it numbered on reverse?

**A.J. Zawadzki** · 11-06-2013, 01:03 AM

A word of caution, the pre-war silver proof and Gontarczyk maker marks are both faked and applied to reproduction badges. This Znak Pancerny may be genuine, but I’d like to see good clear pictures of the reverse showing the threaded post. For what it’s worth I’d also like to see an unobscured picture of the spinner.

Regards,
Tony

**prosty zolnierz** · 11-06-2013, 01:12 AM

your wish is my command as it has been left with me.will take another couple of shots tomorrow. your musings seem to coincide with mine

**kosa** · 11-06-2013, 01:31 AM

by A.J. Zawadzki

A word of caution, the pre-war silver proof and Gontarczyk maker marks are both faked and applied to reproduction badges. This Znak Pancerny may be genuine, but I’d like to see good clear pictures of the reverse showing the threaded post. For what it’s worth I’d also like to see an unobscured picture of the spinner.

Regards,
Tony

Yes, they are but there's one thing fakes miss. A picture of the reverse will clarify.

**prosty zolnierz** · 11-07-2013, 12:39 PM

had to go to the poundshop for new batteries for camera

**kosa** · 11-07-2013, 06:09 PM

by prosty zolnierz

had to go to the poundshop for new batteries for camera

Fakes have laser engraved maker marks and serial numbers. The hallmark and maker marks are stamped which is good but all of the Gontarczyk's ZP badges I have seen to date were either hand or stamped numbered. Reising's badges were not numbered. The spinner is genuine but it may come from another badge which is an old trick. Judging the badge by the threaded post perhaps a late replacement. A bit puzzling badge to me.