I just wanted to thank you all for your candid evaluation of the helmet. I had paid for it with Paypal, and when the seller refused to agree to a return I opened a dispute, which was granted. I posted the return today, and should receive a refund in a few days. Thanks again. I think I will stick to TR and US helmets in the future, since I think I have a fairly good handle on them. Cheers, Jim G.