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  1. #1141

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    Why were a few crosses handed out without a number?

  2. #1142

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    Hello Philip,

    Many thanks for your post, in answer to your question "They were not", these are post war made replicas.

    The Polish Government ordered 50,000 crosses from the manufacturer, out of these only 48,821 where awarded with a few others amounting to less than 10 that were awarded from 48,821 onwards.

    There was no need to present a cross un-numbered when they had the excess from those unissued, perhaps if a veteran lost his and he needed a replacement. But the excess has been on the market since the 1970's sold by the Polish Government in Exile to medal dealers like Spink and Son.

    When I first visited the Spink's Medal Department in the 1970's and asked to see what Polish Items they had they opened up from what I can remember 5-6 Drawers full of awards and virtually a draw half full of Monte Cassino Crosses.

    I know that from time to time there are dealers that tell the tale that this Monte Cassino Cross was issued unnumbered, just to make out that it is rarer than the Numbered Crosses.

    I hope that the above answers your question and you are wise to ask first.

    Best wishes

    Andrzej

  3. #1143

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    Hello Andrzej and Philip,

    I used to be of the same opinion that the unnumbered Monte Cassino cross was a myth. Every one I encountered claiming to be genuine was not. But then two things happened. First was the assertion in the Stolarski / Wroński reference that they do exist. Second was actually obtaining one of these unnumbered crosses. The following thread from about three years back goes into detail:

    Un-numbered Monte Cassino Cross – Verifying Authenticity

    Cheers,
    Tony
    All thoughts and opinions expressed are those of my own and should not be mistaken for medical and/or legal advice.

    "Tomorrow hopes we have learned something from yesterday." - John Wayne

  4. #1144

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    Is there a chart available showing what numbers were given to what Division? It would be good to see what number the cross is and what Division that person fought in.

  5. #1145

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    From Wikipedia, but I believe also posted earlier in this thread, or in another of the parallel threads:

    1 Senior Commanders - General Władysław Anders, General Officer Commanding 2 Polish Corps
    2 Senior Commanders - General Zygmunt Bohusz-Szyszko, Deputy General Officer Commanding 2 Polish Corps
    3 Senior Commanders - Bishop Józef Gawlina, Polish Army Field Bishop
    4 Senior Commanders - General Bolesław Bronisław Duch, General Officer Commanding 3 Carpathian Rifle Division
    5 Senior Commanders - General Nikodem Sulik, General Officer Commanding 5 Kresowa Infantry Division
    6 Senior Commanders - General Bronisław Rakowski, General Officer Commanding 2 Armoured Brigade
    7 Senior Commanders - General Roman Odzierzyński General Officer Commanding 2 Polish Corps Artillery
    8 Senior Commanders - General Prof. Dr Bolesław Szarecki, General Officer Commanding 2 Polish Corps Medical Services
    9 Senior Commanders - Colonel Dr. Ludwik Ząbkowski, Commanding Officer 2 Artillery Group, 2 Polish Corps
    10 Senior Commanders - Colonel Kazimierz Wiśniowski, 2 Polish Corps Chief of Staff
    11 Senior Commanders - Colonel Stanisław Skowroński, 2 Polish Corps Quartermaster
    12 Senior Commanders - Colonel Mieczysław Zaleski, Commanding Officer 2 Polish Corps Signals Units
    13 Senior Commanders - Colonel Konstanty Skąpski, Commanding Officer 2 Polish Corps Engineering Units
    14-749 Headquarters 2 Corps Staff
    750 Headquarters 2 Corps Staff – Melchior Wańkowicz, War Correspondent
    751-1102 Killed in Action 3 Carpathian Rifle Division
    1103-2043 Officers 3 Carpathian Rifle Division
    2044-14702 Other Ranks listed Alphabetically 3 Carpathian Rifle Division
    14703-14750 Not Awarded
    14751-15246 5 Kresowa Infantry Division Headquarters Staff
    15247-15375 Headquarters Staff 5 Wilno Infantry Brigade
    15376-16136 13 Wilno Rifle Battalion
    16137-16878 14 Wilno Rifle Battalion
    16879-17615 15 Wilno Rifle Battalion
    17616-17743 Headquarters Staff 6 Lwow Infantry Brigade
    17744-18477 16 Lwow Rifle Battalion
    18478-19206 17 Lwow Rifle Battalion
    19207-19938 18 Lwow Rifle Battalion
    19939-20656 4 Light Artillery Regiment
    20657-21362 5 Light Artillery Regiment
    21363-22027 6 Light Artillery Regiment
    22028-22654 5 Anti-Tank Regiment
    22655-23554 5 Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment
    23555-24438 15 Poznan lancer Regiment
    24439-25130 5 Heavy Machine Gun Battalion
    25131-26019 5 Engineers Battalion 5KDP
    26020-26526 5 Signals Battalion
    26527-26770 5 Sanitary (Medical) Company
    26771-27016 6 Sanitary (Medical) Company
    27017-27059 Command Supply and Transport Units
    27060-27324 5 Supply Company
    27325-27583 6 Supply Company
    27584-27966 15 Supply Company
    27967-28307 16 Supply Company
    28308-28443 5 Workshop Company [5 EME Coy.]
    28444-28586 6 Workshop Company [6 EME Coy.]
    28587-28691 5 Provost (Military Police) Squadron [Coy.]
    28692-28733 6 Light Artillery Regiment
    28734-28739 15 Poznan Lancer Regiment
    28751-28975 Headquarters 2nd Warsaw Armoured Brigade
    28976-28987 On secondment to 2nd Armoured Brigade
    28988 Headquarters 2nd Warsaw Armoured Brigade
    28989-29672 4 Skorpion Armoured Regiment
    29673-30328 1 Krechowiecki Lancer Regiment
    30329-30992 6th Children of Lwów Armoured Regiment
    30993-31188 9 Signals Company
    31189-31385 9 Light Sanitary (Medical) Company
    31386-31909 9 Supply Company
    31910-32105 9 Workshop Company [9 EME Coy.]
    32106-32246 9 Forward Tank Replacement Squadron [Coy.]
    32247-32269 6 Field Court, 2nd Armoured Brigade
    32270-32300 Not Awarded
    32301-32332 Command, 2nd Artillery Group
    32333-32361 Staff, Counter-Battery Section
    32362-33050 7 Horse Artillery Regiment
    33051-33055 7 Horse Artillery Regiment - Wounded
    33056-33057 7 Horse Artillery Regiment - Killed in Action
    33058-33759 9 Medium Artillery Regiment
    33760-33767 9 Medium Artillery Regiment - Killed in Action/Died of Wounds
    33768-34364 10 Medium Artillery Regiment
    33765-34367 10 Medium Artillery Regiment - Wounded
    33768-34374 10 Medium Artillery Regiment – Killed in Action
    34375-34936 11 Medium Artillery Regiment
    34937-34940 11 Medium Artillery Regiment - Wounded 27/4 to 11/5/45
    34941-34945 11 Medium Artillery Regiment - Killed in Action/Died of Wounds
    34946-34949 11 Medium Artillery Regiment
    34950-34951 Command, 2nd Artillery Group
    34852-34960 Not Awarded
    34961-34978 Command, 2 Corps Artillery
    34979-35631 7 Anti-Tank Regiment
    35632-35657 7 Anti-Tank Regiment - Killed
    35658-36543 7 Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment
    36544-37518 8 Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment
    37519-38083 1 Artillery Survey Regiment
    38084-38655 Carpathian Lancer Regiment
    38656 Colonel Henryk Ignacy Szymanski (USA) US Army Liaison
    38657-38760 Carpathian Lancer Regiment
    38761-38776 Command, 2 Corps Engineers
    38777-39697 10 Battalion, Corps Engineers [10 Polish Corps Troops Engineers]
    39698-40043 10 Bridging Company
    40044-40297 301 Engineering Company
    40298-40370 304 Mechanical Equipment Platoon
    40371-40398 10 Bomb Disposal Platoon
    40399-40420 306 Engineering Park
    40421-40438 Command, Army Signals 2 Corps
    40439-41052 11 Signals Battalion
    41053-41061 2 Corps Signals Traffic Control Team
    41062-41111 Corps Artillery Fire Control Signals Platoon
    41112-41167 Command, Corps Artillery Group Signals Platoon
    41168-41234 11 Special Radiotelegraphic Platoon
    41235-41245 12 Special information Platoon
    41246-41280 386 Signals Platoon
    41281-41320 389 Medium Radio Platoon
    41321-41338 2 Corps Signals Park
    41339-41371 Seconded from 7 Inf.Div for Telephone Network Security
    41372-41440 Air Support Signals Section
    41441-41446 Arial Photographic Interpretation Section
    41447-41449 Heads of 2 Corps Medical Services
    41450-41615 3 Casualty Clearing Station [stationed at Venafro]
    41616-41783 5 Casualty Clearing Station [stationed at Pozzilli]
    41784-42159 161 Military Hospital [later 2 Military Hospital - stationed at Campobasso]
    42160-42171 Arial Photographic Interpretation Section
    42172-42328 162 Military Hospital [also known as 6 Field Hospital - stationed at Venafro]
    42329-42736 1 Military Hospital [later 5 Military Hospital - stationed at Casamassima]
    42737-43169 3 Military Hospital [stationed at Palagiano]
    43170-43415 31 Sanitary (Medical) Company
    43416-43443 32 Field Hygiene Platoon
    43444-43451 34 Anti-Malaria Section
    43452-43460 45 Surgical Team
    43461-43470 46 Surgical Team
    43471-43480 47 Surgical Team
    43481-43489 48 Surgical Team
    43490-43493 49 Transfusion Team
    43494-43497 50 Transfusion Team
    43498-43514 341 Field Medical Dump
    43515-43520 Field Bacteriological-Chemical Unit
    43521-43541 Heads, Supply and Transport Services
    43542-43589 Command, 2 Corps Supply & Transport Units
    43590-43863 21 Transport Company
    43864 Brigadier Sir E H C Frith (UK) C.O. 26 British Liaison Unit
    43865-43970 21 Transport Company
    43971-44403 22 Transport Company
    44404-44768 23 Transport Company
    44769-45159 24 Transport Company
    45160-45369 29 Ambulance Company
    45370-45419 30 Independent Workshop Platoon
    45420-45459 326 Supply Dump
    45460-45501 327 Supply Dump
    45502-45539 328 Supply Dump
    45540-45617 61 Anti-Aircraft Artillery Supply Unit
    45618-45715 62 Anti-Aircraft Artillery Supply Unit
    45716-45777 331 Mobile Field Bakery
    45778-45843 332 Mobile Field Bakery
    45844–45884 334 Propellant Fuel Dump
    45885-45912 336 Office Materials Dump
    45913-45923 Delegation of Head of Field Canteens
    45924-45973 318 Field Canteen and Mobile Library Company
    45974-45986 Command, 26 Field [Forward] Supply Centre
    45987-45999 Command, 27 Field [Forward] Supply Centre
    46000-46012 Command, 28 Field [Forward] Supply Centre
    46013-46026 Heads, Corps Material Services
    46027-46045 Heads of Non-divisional Material Service Units
    46046-46207 Command, Corps Material Park
    46208-46251 Material Parks Delivery Platoon
    46252-46257 Field Officers shop
    46258-46269 Field Ammunitions Laboratory
    46270-46377 350 Material Company Supply Station
    46378-46480 375 Field Laundry
    46481-46496 377 Field Bath
    46497-46515 378 Field Bath
    46516-46527 Heads of Corps Electrical and Mechanical Engineering Service
    46528-46693 13 Workshop Company [13 EME Coy.]
    46694-46872 15 Workshop Company [15 EME Coy.]
    46873-47123 35 Workshop Company [35 EME Coy.]
    47124-47127 Corps Ordinance Workshop
    47128-47294 36 Rescue Company
    47295-47303 Heads of Geographical Services
    47304-47455 12 Geographical Company
    47456-47475 312 Field Map Store
    47476-47484 Command 2 Corps Provost (Military Police)
    47485-47648 11 Provost (Military Police) Squadron [Coy.]
    47649-47659 1 Provost (Military Police) Platoon
    47660-47676 2 Provost (Military Police) Platoon
    47677-47756 Command, Army Service Corps Units
    47757-47958 Guard Battalion
    47959-47966 Heads, Justice Service
    47967-47994 12 Field Court
    47995-48006 Office of War Graves Registration
    48007-48046 370 Evacuated Equipment Park
    48047-48089 371 Evacuated Equipment Park
    48090-48135 372 Evacuated Equipment Park
    48136-48146 2 Corps Inspectorate for Control of Technical Equipment
    48147-48149
    48150-48151 Heads, Field Postal Service
    48152-48171 2 Corps Field Postal Department
    48172-48178 2 Corps Military Censors Office
    48179-48216 2 Corps Meteorological Section
    48217-48230 Command, 2 Corps Financial Service [Paycorps]
    48231-48257 2 Corps Press and Culture Office
    48258-48263 Press and Culture Office, non-divisional units
    48264-48272 Command Station No.1
    48273-48290 Smoke Screen Unit
    48291-48293 Soldiers’ Welfare Section
    48294-48355 Concert and Entertainment Section
    48356-48385 Reserve Liaison and Translator Officers
    48386-48399 111 Bridge Security Company
    48400-48407 Health Service Inspectorate, Women's Auxiliary Service (Poland)
    48408-48498 Independent Commando Company
    48499-48505 Headquarters 2 Corps Staff
    48506-48514 Cipher Office and Radio Station
    48515-48517 7 Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment
    48518 7 Anti-Tank Regiment
    48519 301 Engineering Company
    48520 389 Medium Radio Platoon
    48521-48523 2 Provost (Military Police) Platoon
    48524-48531
    48532-48535 318 Field Canteen and Mobile Library Company
    48536-48537 35 Workshop Company [35 EME Coy.]
    48538-48540 5 Military Hospital (Previously 1 Military Hospital)
    48541-48542 162 Military Hospital
    48543 161 Military Hospital
    48544-48547
    48548-48553 Headquarters 2 Corps Staff
    48554-48580 Arial Photographic Interpretation Section
    48581 8 Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment
    48582-48583 Smoke Screen Unit
    48584-48585 3 Casualty Clearing Station
    48586 31 Sanitary (Medical) Company
    48587-48597 Guard Battalion
    48598-48691 Headquarters 2 Corps Staff
    48692 2 Corps Signals Traffic Control Team
    48693 Carpathian Lancer Regiment
    48694-48696 Heads of 2 Corps Medical Services
    48697-48710 Heads, Supply and Transport Services
    48711-48715 Heads of Corps Electrical and Mechanical Engineering Service
    48716-48720 Command, Army Service Corps Units
    48721-48749
    48750-48759 Headquarters 2 Corps Staff
    48760 7 Anti-Tank Regiment
    48761 1 Artillery Survey Regiment
    48762-48796 Convalescent Home (2 Battalion)
    48797 Heads, Supply and Transport Services
    48798 Heads, Corps Material Service
    48799-48821 Guard Battalion
    48822-48823 2 Corps Press and Culture Office
    48824-48830
    48831 663 Artillery Observation Air Squadron
    48832
    48833 7 Anti-Tank Regiment
    48834-48845
    48846 Convalescent Home (2 Battalion)
    48847 8 Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment

    The units listed above are not the official British War Office designations, but rather a close translated version taken from the Polish.

    This information was brought to you courtesy of Andrzej and The Polish Institute and General Sikorski Museum. It was compiled by Dr. Mark Ostrowski. Recent research has established that the initial figures cited above were miscalculated and in fact the last known cross given to a named recipient was 48847. The complete list of named recipients is at the Polish Institute and Sikorski Museum in File AXII/85/214, Folders 1-19.
    All thoughts and opinions expressed are those of my own and should not be mistaken for medical and/or legal advice.

    "Tomorrow hopes we have learned something from yesterday." - John Wayne

  6. #1146

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    Andrzejku,
    An English Gentleman asked me for help with identifying Monte Cassino cross numbered #43 326.
    I have advised him that recipient was from 31st Sanitary Company as I have foud in post above. Would you be so kind to check for more details if its not a problem.

    Hordeum

  7. #1147

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    Hello Hordeum,

    With regards to your post requesting information on the recipient of the Monte Cassino Cross Numbered : 43326 when awarded the recipients details were as follows:

    Rank: St.Szer. (Lance Corporal)

    Surname: PATYNEK

    Christian Name : Józef

    Date of Birth : 1903

    Army Number : (also found on His ID tags) : 1903-42-III

    Unit : 31 Kompania Sanitarna

    I have also checked on the London gazette, Index of Victims of Soviet repression all with no joy, but I did find on both Ancestry and Find My Past, a Józef Patynek who died in Birmingham, Warwickshire in 1967.

    That is all that I was able to find for you, I hope that your friend finds it interesting

    Best wishes

    Andrzej

    p.s. my bill is in the post

  8. #1148

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    Andrzej thanks again!! I have passed the message to him and the bill

  9. #1149

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    Hello Andrzej,

    Could you please help me with the following names: Duliniec (Dyliniec) and Gonczar?
    Thank you in advance.

    Br,
    Artem

  10. #1150

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    Hello Artem,

    Many thanks for your post, I have been able to find the following for you I sincerely hope that it is of some help to you :

    1) Porucznik Edward DULINIEC, 1911-133-III, MCC 1227, 12PULP

    2) Kapral Alojzy GONCZAR, 1916-33-III, MCC 4573, 1KPAL

    3) Kanonier Jozef GONCZAR, 1907-137-III, MCC 33263, 9PAC

    4) Ulan Konstanty GONCZAR, 1914-136-III, MCC 23315, 15PULP

    Best wishes

    Andrzej

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