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Article about: In my opinion this particular cap eagle was made by G.J. Garratt Toronto. Very unique, hard to find.

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    I believe that this cap eagle is a current reproduction being sold in Poland.

    In 2010 in Chicago at the PNA camp I participated in a 1939 campaign re-enactment.

    There was a Polish vendor there selling about 8-10 different Polish insignia (cap eagles, breast badges, ) all cast with very similar spin discs.

    From a few feet away they look good.

    I bought a number of them and use them in my impression......just can't be wearing the originals out on the field.

    cheers,

    Piwo


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    Quote by wadowicznic View Post
    Fellows,

    Pictures of the Eagle recently sold on Ebay .
    Pictures are not good – but it looks like a) interesting variant or b) some sort of repo – I am not sure.,

    I think it is worth posting.

    Anybody any suggestions?
    It's an early variant of a ME hat badge like you can see in the picture below. Teheran/Iran badges are hard to find. The only thing that doesn't match the badge is the nut but it's not a big deal. Best.

    Last edited by Taurus; 03-23-2012 at 10:46 PM.

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    Quote by Piwo2 View Post
    I believe that this cap eagle is a current reproduction being sold in Poland.

    In 2010 in Chicago at the PNA camp I participated in a 1939 campaign re-enactment.

    There was a Polish vendor there selling about 8-10 different Polish insignia (cap eagles, breast badges, ) all cast with very similar spin discs.

    From a few feet away they look good.

    I bought a number of them and use them in my impression......just can't be wearing the originals out on the field.

    cheers,

    Piwo
    The ME badge in the picture wadowicznic posted is not a cast badge. Is is stamped brass zinc plated.
    The badges you can see in the picture, which I posted are stamped brass and stamped copper. See the reverse in the photo below.
    The early ME stamped brass/copper badges are natural surface, zinc or silver plated. You never judge a hat badge by the nut, do you. Brass or copper cast ME hat badges is another story. Best.

    Last edited by Taurus; 03-23-2012 at 11:09 PM.

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    It appeared to be a cast badge to me.

    No, I do not usually pass judgement on articles authenticity by the fastener.

    A single pictures is worth a thousand words but.....holding it in your own hand counts for so much more.

    I was not disparaging the article but merely replying to an inquiry or a a request for opinions.

    I will photograph all of the reproductions items I purchased in Chicago and post for all to see in the near future.


    I just returned from Toronto, Canada where I was able to meet with and share collecting my interests with a number of members of this forum.
    It was nice t put faces with names.....

    cheers,
    Piwo

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    Quote by Piwo2 View Post
    (...)A single pictures is worth a thousand words but.....holding it in your own hand counts for so much more.(...)
    Hi Piwo,

    Sure Have a look at another one. I took the picture with my phone. This one is 52x34x1.2 mm., stamped brass silver plated.


    A nice one, isn’t it? I love the ME hat badges. Each one is different.

    Best,

    Pit

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    Quote by Piwo2 View Post

    I just returned from Toronto, Canada where I was able to meet with and share collecting my interests with a number of members of this forum.
    It was nice t put faces with names.....

    cheers,
    Piwo
    Same here. It was nice to meet you all at the Militaty Show, and put faces with the names.

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    For your viewing pleasure here's an interesting piece from a local friend's collection. This is a large sized nicely crafted bullion thread eagle. To give an idea of its size I put it next to standard sized officer hat eagles. I’m not certain what the purpose of the eagle is, or its age.

    Regards,
    Tony
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    Hello Tony,

    I think that this eagle might be from an air force pennon "proporzec".
    A proprzec is smaller than a banner, it measures only 57x48 cm. A traditional Polish military banner measures 100X100 cm.

    Below is an interesting link.
    https://forum.ioh.pl/viewtopic.php?t=23786

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    Thanks Hubal. It very well maybe a proporzec eagle. The size seems just about right for that application.

    Regards,
    Tony
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    Fellows,

    Worth posting for the record (recently sold /offered in Poland) - “France/ Paris 39 Eagle”

    We have discussed this pattern on the forum before.

    Seeing varius pictures, looks like there had been 2-3 versions of finish and 1-2 versions of fastening.

    My experience is that this Eagle has been heavily copied.
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