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    I couldn't find a thread for Second Polish Corps photographs?

    Anyone know where in Italy this photograph of a knocked out Sherman might have been taken? The photo looks familiar maybe "Albeneta Farm" but I cannot find it in the few books I have.
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    It is the Albaneta Farm (Masseria Albaneta), I enclose an image taken from the book Ramie Pancerne, published also on Pulk 4. pancerny "Skorpion", where you can see that the ruins are the same, note also the three trees. The photos seems to have been shot from the same place.
    Enzo
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    Thanks Enzo I thought it looked familiar—I have both books you mentuion and I just couldn't find it! Sharper eyes than mine
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    I think this is another photo of the same(?) destroyed Sherman but from a differnt vantage point.

    This particular was definitely taken by 'tanker' of Pulk 4. pancerny "Skorpion"
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    Hey Stefan
    Not sure if you're aware or not but several features (or lack of) regarding this tank have always struck me as curious. Namely it does not have the additional armor plates typically seen on the 4th regiments tanks welded over their munitions lockers on the sides of the hull . Another is the lack of smoke launchers on the R/H side of the turret typical of several Polish tanks photographed at Monte Cassino. I suspect this might be a tank from the New Zealand 20th Armoured Regiment, they lost many during their failed assault on Mass Albaneta. The Polish did put three abandoned New Zealand tanks into service but withdrew them soon after 12 May. Strikes me that many photos of wrecked Shermans on the road to Mass Albaneta are misidentified as Polish. Have attached three images. 1st NZ tank abandoned on the road to Albaneta (no armor plates). 2nd NZ tank used by the Polish (no armor plates). 3rd Different view of your earlier photos.

    Hope it is of interest

    Chris........................
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    You might well be right Chris

    Attached is the very well known lino-cut illustration by Stanisław Gliwa of 4th Skorpion Shermans 'PAZUR' and 'PIRAT' at Albenetta which I think may depict the route of image 3 in the set ... with some artistic interpetation! Stanisław Gliwa is my favourite graphic artist/soldier of 2PolCorps
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    I think these photos are Armoured Regiment's tank repair sheds at its Potenza Picena base ?

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    [QUOTE=4thskorpion;182847]I think these photos are Armoured Regiment's tank repair sheds at its Potenza Picena base ?

    Great photos Stefan. Regarding the Gliwa image I had a long look at Christine F's original print recently, an interesting little piece of history, not to mention her dad's album! Have included a photo from my album, I suspect it was taken in Italy in a tank repair yard (note bullet holes, damage & camouflage). I believe these wrecks were converted into Fascine carriers and bridge layers, though it's unclear to me as to whether the brigade brought it's Valentines over from Egypt armed with their turrets and converted them in the field? Seem to recall seeing one used as an aid station at Monte Cassino.

    Chris............
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