02-13-2015 12:28 AM
M-16 from WWI. Too bad it's been painted, as it
looks to have been a nice one. It's also possible
the black paint could be removed. You'd have
to try acetone on a very small section first.
Still a cool piece, IMO.
Welcome to the Forum, Angustino.........
Yeah..it´s a shame that the coat of arms is lost.
Well I am planning on selling it so do you think trying to remove the paint would do for a better price?
Yes it's possible to get more out of it, but it will
always show signs or traces of being stripped
back. Maybe best left to the next guy who
owns it to attempt.........?
It might, or you may get over zealous and mess it up. I'd like to see a group shot of all of the items, or links to their threads. Neat find, and it may be a relatives. Maybe a little study before you part with it?
A heat gun used outside the house with good ventilationwill often remove dissimilar paints like this with no primer between them.There are good citrus based cream strippers that used in small ares will often lift one layer at a time. Acetone is pretty volatile and will evaporate quickly before releasing such old paints.
I think that bread bag is from WW1 and not WW2. These are not my expertise but I assume the BA stamp is the give away. Happy to stand corrected.
I doubt that your grandfather brought anything back from a Russian POW camp. Especially after 10 years and more so a helmet. Almost everything was taken away from them. I knew one Luft Pilot who was in a camp for 5 years. They took his shoes almost immediately when he arrived and was under 100 lbs when he finally got home.
Others here probably have more knowledge of the camps. I think most soldiers did not make it back, especially SS.
My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them
"Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)
I think that these items were probably left there in the dying days of the Reich by a member of the German 'Home Guard', or had perhaps even been used by a civilian in those final weeks.
The helmet is a Model 1918 not an M16, as its metal liner band has the chinstrap bales directly attached, the leather chinstrap will/should have the carbine clip fastener type, but that part appears to be missing in the image................looks like nice original WW1 feldgrau paint underneath, as the bread bag is probably Imperial (would need to see the front to confirm, only one "D" ring present for waterbottle fixture on an Imperial bag) most probably Great Grandads from the first war, as most soldiers went home with their kit ! However that said, the water bottle is much later......the bread bag is marked with an Imperial Army Korps clothing depot stamp "B.A.IV"................
"IV Armee-Korps" was the General Command of the Duchy of Saxony (Generalkommando im Herzogtum Sachsen), its headquarters was in Magdeburg and its catchment area included the Prussian Province of Saxony and the adjacent Saxon Duchies (Saxe-Altenburg, Anhalt) and Principalities (Schwarzburg-Sondershausen, Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt, and Reuss). The Corps was still in existence at the end of the war in the 6th Army, (Heeresgruppe Kronprinz Rupprecht) on the Western Front. The Corps was disbanded with the demobilisation of the German Army after World War I.
The helmet is marked "W66" which is the maker mark and size, "W" is the maker "Hermann Weissenburger & Co., Stuttgart-Canstatt" the marking on the inside of the crown is a heating lot code will indicate where the steel was milled/rolled...... "R" indicating steel milled by "Stahlwerk Röchling,Volkingen".
Prost ! Steve.
"The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)