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04-19-2017 02:12 PM
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I agree with Paul, junk. Why would a relic helmet in Russia be rare?
There does indeed seem to be a cottage industry of jazzing up relic helmets, repaints, fake decals and whatever you'd call that.
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...and not just relic helmets....barbed wire certainly appears to be "this years black"...I've only been collecting helmets for about 40 years...and have not yet seen a period photograph of a barbed-wire clad helmet...from ANY country.....but as our learned colleagues have already pointed out there's quite a few out there that have all hit the market in the last 6-12 months. I can only assume that the mythical burial ground of the 5th SS Stacheldraht und Huhnerdraht Stahlhelm Division has at last been found!
personally I'd wait........
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If I was looking for a helmet from Stalingrad, I'd only buy from a Digger/Seller out of Volgograd ... I have also long questioned the use of Barbed Wire around helmets...It would likely be more of a hindrance to the wearer and not practical at all, in my opinion...
A few of our fellow WRF-Members live in Volgograd...I'd be more likely to contact them...
cheers, Glenn
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...and not just relic helmets....barbed wire certainly appears to be "this years black"...I've only been collecting helmets for about 40 years...and have not yet seen a period photograph of a barbed-wire clad helmet...from ANY country.....but as our learned colleagues have already pointed out there's quite a few out there that have all hit the market in the last 6-12 months. I can only assume that the mythical burial ground of the 5th SS Stacheldraht und Huhnerdraht Stahlhelm Division has at last been found!
personally I'd wait........
Actually there are photos of German soldiers with barbed wire on their helmets at Stalingrad (and other places). Here's one (soldier back left):
Some info here on helmets at Stalingrad that mention and show the wire:
https://alexanderandsonsrestorations...et-stalingrad/
And here are the common wiring configurations used by Germans on their helmets in WW2:
German-Helmets.com
German-helmets.com do state that wiring on helmets in Russia was uncommon however.
So the wiring on the helmet isn't an instant black mark for me. Surely there is something more compelling if it is a fake. e.g. the stamping on the inside is fake because . . . ?
Cheers
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Is that wire on the back left soldier's helmet barbed or just plain wire? I'm not seeing the barbs on it clearly enough to say that it is. Certainly, they did use wire, but, as Glenn said, I could see no advantage to using Barbed wire-aside from making it catch on everything it came into contact and poking into your hands every time you took off or adjusted your helmet.
William
"Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."
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Is that wire on the back left soldier's helmet barbed or just plain wire? I'm not seeing the barbs on it clearly enough to say that it is. Certainly, they did use wire, but, as Glenn said, I could see no advantage to using Barbed wire-aside from making it catch on everything it came into contact and poking into your hands every time you took off or adjusted your helmet.
I agree. Even on the link I didn't see any barbed wire being used. It mentions wire, even shows wire, just not barbed. Probably a safe bet that barbed wire wouldn't survive that well underground either. I have seen barbed wire that has come to be in the ground from much more current times and it is in really bad shape compared to the barbed wire on the helmet shown.
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