Heer M42 helmet project

[WOODSNAKE]

And another coat of primer

[davejb]

Are you using a gloss primer, personally i use a flat matt primer for better results when applying the top colour or even an acid etch primer which gives a much better result, or after removing all paint i leave the helmet in the damp open air for a week or so, this puts a slight rust tint to the whole helmet and leaves the surface with a roughened look, then prime with an appropriate colour again leaving it outside for a week and start to add the base colour, if your adding a camo i dont paint it on , i dab it on with a cloth which produces very small peaks of paint that settle back down and give the surface a rough finish

[WOODSNAKE]

Are you using a gloss primer, personally i use a flat matt primer for better results when applying the top colour or even an acid etch primer which gives a much better result, or after removing all paint i leave the helmet in the damp open air for a week or so, this puts a slight rust tint to the whole helmet and leaves the surface with a roughened look, then prime with an appropriate colour again leaving it outside for a week and start to add the base colour, if your adding a camo i dont paint it on , i dab it on with a cloth which produces very small peaks of paint that settle back down and give the surface a rough finish

No it's a flat primer Dave the pic was taken while it was still wet giving it that Glossy look, thanks for the Tips, I was checking out a "Zimmeritt" lid on GH.com earlier that looked trick but i dont know what they used to make the paste(apart from sand) i know they baked it on,any Ideas?

Phill

[sandgroper]

Mate, that thing is looking great, well done cobber.

[WOODSNAKE]

Mate, that thing is looking great, well done cobber.

Cheers Bud ")

[davejb]

Phil Zimmeritt was made in Germany by C W Zimmer Co/, most people think it was a concrete but in fact it was a paste made from a number of components, namely 25% Polyvinyl acetate used as the base, 10% sawdust used as a filler, 40% Barium Sulphate, 10% zinc oxide, the colour was added by a 15% mixture of ochre, it was applied to most armoured vehicles in the summer of 1943 at the factories, but before it became general issue supplied quite a lot of men in the field painted their vehicles in various substances including concrete , thick mud and even thick ice in the winter months, designed to help eliminate the possibilty of sticky bombs and mines being applied to the hull of vehicles, however there were some troops who applied a makeshift paste to their helmets, some used mud in paint , concrete, but it became pretty heavy on the head, or when available actual Zimmeritt, your best bet to replicate that effect, would be to actually use a thin concrete with a plastisiser added for adhesion, paint it on with a 2" paint brush and spray over or add paint to the mix beforehand, i once used a filling plaster mixed with a PVA glue, but it does tend to flake off after time, i like to experiment with coatings until i get the effect i want, but only on friends restorations for display only or for someones replica for re-enactment

[WOODSNAKE]

Thanks Dave for taking the time to fill me in, i appreciate it no end... I hadn't even thought of the "Sticky Bombs" as a reason, especially with the ice!
Your a Gentleman with a wealth of knowledge and i learn a little everyday, Thankyou.

[ph3s]

thanks WOODSNAKE, I kinda enjoyed the story, will you give it a little wear and age? will we see the 'final product'?

I got one a while ago, but newer managed to even start the project, want to sell now, hopefully someone with right hands will get it

[WOODSNAKE]

thanks WOODSNAKE, I kinda enjoyed the story, will you give it a little wear and age? will we see the 'final product'?

I got one a while ago, but newer managed to even start the project, want to sell now, hopefully someone with right hands will get it

Cheers Mate, You'll definately see it finished, both "Minty" and aged, I was thinking Camo but i might go a Decal and wire basket, still not sure.
What type of Lid do you have that your thinking of Selling?

Phill

[ph3s]

Great! will wait for that

mine is m35 , you can see it here
https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/germa...-shell-105756/