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Rusty SS Belt Buckle

Article about: I have a very rusty SS Belt buckle has anyone any advice on the best things to use to try and clean it up ?? thanks Paul

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    Definately number 2 Dimas because of it's history !!

    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Hi Paul and Dimas


    I also want to say that I think the number two method is the best way to go because of various reasons.

    First the number two method is letting nature do it's course, so we aren't altering the belt because nature does it for us...

    Second when using the number one method you will get an 'unnatural' result.

    Keep us up to date with this belt, I'am wondering how much detail survived.

    Also to give you a time frame; as a kid I found an exploded shell from WWI, at the time it was one big piece of rust, really hard to tell it was once a shell. Over time because of the heating in our attic, big chunks started to fall of each summer. The result today is a beautifull exploded WWI shell, one of the nicest things in my collection...



    Greetz

    Nick VR

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    Number 2 method it is guys hopefully the passage of time and heat will slowly improve it's condition,

    thanks

    Paul
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Paul to be honest I would just leave it as it is, you will not improve on that, it has rusted to much
    Ben

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    Cheers Ben i think i'll just do that, it is what it is !!

    regards

    Paul
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Hi all


    Here's a pic of the shell that I was talking about:

    BTW Paul, the rust will come of by itself whether you like it or not...


    Greetz

    Nick VR
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    Hi,

    I've had alot of buckles in the same conditions (Heer and SS). There is nothing you can do to restore them. All the known methods will fail and as it is, your buckle is very fragile too.
    I'd suggest you keep it untouched, as a relic.
    Matt

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    Hi Matt


    Offcourse they will never look 'like new', but IMO you can definatly upgrade the condition of it...


    Greetz

    Nick VR

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    Hi Nick,

    it depends what you expect from it. Corrosion like that is deep and I believe it has also something to do with the quality of the steel of late war production. You can remove the main deposits, but that's it. And these buckles are fragile like biscuits.

    Personally, I never use rust removers, because I don't like the final results (it is normal that they dissolve a IAB, zink is VERY delicate to restore). For steel stuff I use a restoration acid called HEDP.
    For zink and other leagues, I prefer EDTA in small % with water.
    For alloy, the best is the Oxalic acid.
    I don't use metal tools, the best tool for small restoration is a porcupine needle: it is strong but it will not scratch your beloved badges. Try it!
    Matt

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    Hi Matt


    Quote by Matt R. View Post
    it depends what you expect from it. Corrosion like that is deep and I believe it has also something to do with the quality of the steel of late war production.
    This is true.

    Quote by Matt R. View Post
    You can remove the main deposits, but that's it.
    I never said that he would get a shiny new buckle.

    Quote by Matt R. View Post
    Personally, I never use rust removers, because I don't like the final results (it is normal that they dissolve a IAB, zink is VERY delicate to restore).
    I agree with you but remember I never recommended this method due to past experiences.

    Quote by Matt R. View Post
    I don't use metal tools, the best tool for small restoration is a porcupine needle: it is strong but it will not scratch your beloved badges.
    Again I agree with you, that's why I said in previous post's not to use any metal tools.

    Quote by Matt R. View Post
    Try it!




    Greetz

    Nick VR

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