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Thoughts on small SA/HJ?

Article about: Any thoughts on this small SA, not seen it in the flesh but told it's smaller than a standard box buckle. Presuming it's a 40mm. Were these HJ use?

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    Any thoughts on this small SA, not seen it in the flesh but told it's smaller than a standard box buckle. Presuming it's a 40mm. Were these HJ use?
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    Yes, these were used by the H.J. in the early period prior to the introduction of the H.J. buckle with the motto and the D.J. buckle.

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    Original buckle Lenny though a bit tired, ok if dirt cheap
    Ben

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    Hello Gentlemen ,

    I think the roundel is not from this small buckle .

    That's from a normaly size SA buckle and soldert new on the small case !!!!!!!
    Regards ,
    Markus


    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks


    Link to my collection : http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/album.php?albumid=1175



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    Ok, interesting.. but was the soldering done period, do you think?

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    I've got a 40mm brown belt that I reckon is HJ, so that's why I'm keen. It's a cheap buckle to be honest, I'm sure I've seen period pics of full size rounded on smaller box?

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    Quote by Dean View Post
    Ok, interesting.. but was the soldering done period, do you think?
    Hello,

    no problem for a skilled craftsman . Also do the patina .
    Regards ,
    Markus


    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks


    Link to my collection : http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/album.php?albumid=1175



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    Here's a thought, just been checking and as far as I can gather the early HJ's were 35mm and had straight ears. If this is a full size roundel, that puts the buckle at 40mm, and it's got curved ears. That's not an early HJ buckle, but a 40mm SA as mentioned in Angolia Pg. 172

    Additionally, a rarely encountered 40x63mm size was also produced.
    Thoughts anyone?
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    This buckle arrived today and it is indeed a 40mm SA, really chuffed with it. The roundel looks to have been there a long time and have no reason to doubt it's a genuine 40mm SA. According to Angolia they are pretty rare, anyone else got one?

    I've posted a pic with a 45mm, 40mm and a 35mm...
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    Lenny,


    Glad the buckle arrived safe, i have no reason to believe that the roundel does not belong to the 40mm box, its been on there since day 1 imo.



    Regards Mac 66.

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