Thoughts on small SA/HJ?

[Lenny Warren]

Any thoughts on this small SA, not seen it in the flesh but told it's smaller than a standard box buckle. Presuming it's a 40mm. Were these HJ use?

[FrankBooth]

Yes, these were used by the H.J. in the early period prior to the introduction of the H.J. buckle with the motto and the D.J. buckle.

[Ben Evans]

Original buckle Lenny though a bit tired, ok if dirt cheap

[yellow12]

Hello Gentlemen ,

I think the roundel is not from this small buckle .

That's from a normaly size SA buckle and soldert new on the small case !!!!!!!

[Dean]

Ok, interesting.. but was the soldering done period, do you think?

[Lenny Warren]

I've got a 40mm brown belt that I reckon is HJ, so that's why I'm keen. It's a cheap buckle to be honest, I'm sure I've seen period pics of full size rounded on smaller box?

[yellow12]

Ok, interesting.. but was the soldering done period, do you think?

Hello,

no problem for a skilled craftsman . Also do the patina .

[Lenny Warren]

Here's a thought, just been checking and as far as I can gather the early HJ's were 35mm and had straight ears. If this is a full size roundel, that puts the buckle at 40mm, and it's got curved ears. That's not an early HJ buckle, but a 40mm SA as mentioned in Angolia Pg. 172

Additionally, a rarely encountered 40x63mm size was also produced.

Thoughts anyone?

[Lenny Warren]

This buckle arrived today and it is indeed a 40mm SA, really chuffed with it. The roundel looks to have been there a long time and have no reason to doubt it's a genuine 40mm SA. According to Angolia they are pretty rare, anyone else got one?

I've posted a pic with a 45mm, 40mm and a 35mm...

[Mac 66]

Lenny,


Glad the buckle arrived safe, i have no reason to believe that the roundel does not belong to the 40mm box, its been on there since day 1 imo.



Regards Mac 66.