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My first SA Dienstdolch C. Eppenstein-sohne

Article about: by Wagriff Wf (WestFalen) was used for many SA makers, but unfortunately, so far as known, C. Eppenstein's group marks are Ho, Nm, and Wm. I wouldn't want to calculate the odds of finding a

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    Default My first SA Dienstdolch C. Eppenstein-sohne

    Just got my first one after years of waiting early dagger without ground off rohm. Nickel guards stamped WF

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    Nice dagger in good condition.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Hi Thanson..not sure what you mean by a "without a ground off Rohm".....correct me please if I misread your post. This is a Non Rohm dagger if that is what you mean..and this producer did not make any Rohm Dedication daggers. The Gruppe mark "Wf" Westfalen does not appear on any of my source references..and would also explain the lower crossguard fit not being the best to the grip. Just an observation

    Eppenstein guards are internally marked " EW " The upper guard fits nice and tight. Regardless the whole dagger is early period. Regards Larry
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    Quote by Larry C View Post
    Hi Thanson..not sure what you mean by a "without a ground off Rohm".....correct me please if I misread your post. This is a Non Rohm dagger if that is what you mean..and this producer did not make any Rohm Dedication daggers. The Gruppe mark "Wf" Westfalen does not appear on any of my source references..and would also explain the lower crossguard fit not being the best to the grip. Just an observation

    Eppenstein guards are internally marked " EW " The upper guard fits nice and tight. Regardless the whole dagger is early period. Regards Larry
    that's correct I meant non rohm, I was unaware they didn't make any rohm daggers. Odd that someone might have swapped out the crossguard. You mean the FW mark doesn't appear on any daggers from this specific maker right?

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    I have to agree. Unfortunately, it does seem that the lower crossguard should not be there. It doesn't look Bad, but as Larry said, the WestFalen markings are not right and the grip does not fit into is as finely as they should. Sorry for the bad news...
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    bummer, what should a person do about the crossguard? Is there even any chance that there are going to be any crossguards available from what I assume is an uncommon maker?

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    So was the Wf an SS Gruppe mark?

    Semper Fi
    Phil

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    Wf (WestFalen) was used for many SA makers, but unfortunately, so far as known, C. Eppenstein's group marks are Ho, Nm, and Wm. I wouldn't want to calculate the odds of finding a spare lower crossguard from Eppenstein, but you never know, I guess. In the meanwhile, like I said, it doesn't look Bad.
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    OK I had to pull out my"Collectors Handbook of WW2 German Daggers" By LTC. (RET.) Thomas M. Johnson and on page 205 under " Group Identification marks" It list the Wf mark as a SA Identification Mark for Westfalen.
    Now I know I got this book years ago ,but has something changed since it's printing?

    Semper Fi
    Phil

    (looks like I was typing at the same time you were Wagriff)

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    Does the crossguard being incorrect significantly hurt the value of the dagger?

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