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SA Dienstdolch group markings

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    Default SA Dienstdolch group markings

    On most SA daggers, two small code letters will be found stamped on the lower reverse crossguards. This represents the SA group to which the daggers original owner belonged. Here is a list of these markings for reference:

    Code SA Group

    A Alpenland .........Emerged , March 1938
    B Berlin-Brandenburg
    BO Bayerische Ostmark
    Do Donau .............Emerged, March 1938
    Fr Franken
    Ha Hansa
    He Hessen
    Ho Hochland
    Kp Kurpfalz
    Mi Mitte
    Nm Nordmark
    No Nordsee
    Nrh Niederrhein
    Ns Niedersachsen
    Nw Hilfswerk Nord-West
    Oe Osterreich- Austria
    Om Ostmark
    Orh Oberrhein........Emerged 1939
    Ost Ostland
    P Pommern
    S Schlesien
    Sa Sachsen
    Sm Sudmark..........Emerged, March 1938
    Su Sudeten............Emerged, October 1938
    Sw Sudwest
    Th Thuringen
    W Wachstandarte (Feldherrnhalle)
    Wa Wartha............Emerged, Jaunary 1940
    We Weichsel..........Emerged, January 1940
    Wf Westfalen
    Wm Westmark


    Cheers, Ade.

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    Ade-
    Kudos to you for correctly identifying these markings. The majority of collectors refer to these as " Gau " marks, which they are not. The stampings indicate the S A Gruppe.
    BOB

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    Hi Ade thanks for the info :-)

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    question? Is it common to see a double stamped fr crossgard in a ex rohm dagger

    cheers

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    here is a picture

    cheers

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    I think it is just a light strike, so it was done again to make it clearer. Looks fine to me.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Hi.everyone. I'm kinda new at this , but i've got a lot of stuff that I would like to identify. Thanks.
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    RZM = Reichzeugmeisterei

    M7/66 is the RZM makers code stamp for Carl Eickhorn. This is called a "Transitional" by US collectors or in German a double maker marked "Doppelhersteller", as it also features the Company logo. Later the Company logo was done away with.

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    That looks like a very early transitional with nickle silver fittings. The later ones were plated and poorly constructed. The fittings and scabbard are worth more than the blade on that one.

    Mark

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    It is very common to see this as the person had to set the stamping die in place and find his place with the hammer. Like putting a nail in a wall you must find your spot and starts with a light tap. I see this all the time. You can see on the left side of the "B" there is a light tapping starting point
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