SS & SA Dienstdolch: all they seem?

[Styx]

Hey, I found this for sale - is it alright, or is it a fake/composite piece?
Any information exceedingly well received!





Kind regards,
Robbie

[Walkwolf]

Need much better/clearer/closer photos - especially of the SS roundel.
It appears to have some gouge marks.........?

[Adrian Stevenson]

I don't like the shape of the grip and eagle / roundal at all.

It has certainly been apart as the lower crossguard is on back to front.

Certainly "restored".

The maker is unknown.

Cheers, Ade.

[Styx]

Damn! I thought I'd found a cheap one for £995. Never mind, thanks for the help (and for the tunic advice earlier)! Until next time!

Robbie

[KradSpam]

Here is one by the same maker for comparison.

Wittmann Militaria #33247 Early model 1933 E.M. SS 188/35 RZM

[Adrian Stevenson]

Now that is more like it.

Cheers Ade.

[Styx]

Great, thanks - I've checked it out and I can see the difference.

Actually, whilst we're on the topic - would you mind looking at this dagger from the same shop? It looks okay to me but I have been (obviously) fooled before!




Robbie

[KradSpam]

that one looks OK to me but I'd question the scabbard colour maybe. I'm still learning with edged stuff though.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Robbie, basically real in parts.

But my concern is this is a later RZM quality dagger. But the scabbard fittings are earlier plated nickle type.

Dagger in scabbard the wrong way around in the last pic. People would be upset if I did not mention my pet hate

Cheers, Ade.

[Styx]

Thanks Ade! Great to put all these to rest. Much obliged for the assistance

Robbie