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this thread needs a time out.

Your statement is incorrect.

[QUOTE=M38;1601955]Bob, I guess I fall in the "old timer" category as well and I know about the respect thing too. But I know you remember, back then we only knew first pattern and second pattern SS...

At this point, I do not think any photos posted on line will change anyone's mind as I think opinions are already set in stone. Kelly Hicks firmly knows that original examples were brought back by...

The problem is that most people have made up their mind on this issue due to Doug's thread. It is unlikely that any individual owning a genuine example would want to open themselves up to the...

I know Bob Hritz has one with direct veteran provenance he got along with a bunch of Italian SS insignia.. I will see if he will post on this thread. He posted about it on WAF and was shouted down...

I wish I could help but it is long gone over 40 years ago and if I had pictures of it they would not be up to the close up standards required by todays requirements. A different time with a far...

I believe the fake theory is based upon one helmet only. I also understand that there was no professional scientific study of what was removed In any case, this was an opinion of one helmet which...

Who the hell took pictures back in the early 1960's? Sorry but that is really a dumb question. Were you collecting back then or even around?

Do those who doubt the originality of the champagne decal think the helmet I obtained in 1961 was a fake?

The first SS helmet I acquired was in 1961. It had a champagne decal on it. I remember this as for a long time, I thought only genuine SS decals had the gilt color. I also have veteran bought...