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Wehrpass - Luftwaffe translation and how to valuate?

Article about: The (ETr) part of Lei-Flak-Abt 1001 means Eisenbahntruppen which indicates that the flak guns were fitted onto railway flatbeds but as mentioned, I have no idea what role they had with V-Wea

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    Default Wehrpass - Luftwaffe translation and how to valuate?

    I made some wrong threads and replies in wrong side of forum and finally i think i found right place where i can ask these questions.

    I found some items from jacket's pocket which i bought from second hand. I would like to know how do you translate or read what is unreadable for my eyes, lol. And as i might don't valuate them as some collectors do, how do i know what is valuable information/signatures/ordens..

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    Wehrpass - Luftwaffe: Emil Hell

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    Default Re: Wehrpass - Luftwaffe translation and how to valuate?

    A original in average condition. 200-250 USD.
    Esko before you post it is wise to search the forum or just the internet, i found a price for you in around 3 minutes. So look first and ask questions later.
    All in all nice item.
    Morris

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    Morris, i like how dedicated you are following all my replies or threads. As i am really new here and with war relics, i really don't know much about these items. I found yesterday so many different prizes just because wehrpass - soldbuch conditions, ordens, photos, signatures, promotions. And some info is unreadable for me, no offence - it really is! I did found promotion layers - but i didnt found 2 of them from any layer, i didnt found ordens list..

    IMO - i'm new and for me there is no wrong questions, right?

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    Default Re: Wehrpass - Luftwaffe translation and how to valuate?

    Quote by KMMorris View Post
    A original in average condition. 200-250 USD.
    Esko before you post it is wise to search the forum or just the internet, i found a price for you in around 3 minutes. So look first and ask questions later.
    All in all nice item.
    Morris
    I think the new member has got the message !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    200-250 USD is a lot of money I think. It's a common document.

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    Quite an interesting book to a Soldier who served with Luftwaffe FLAK units , certainly the 1 Batterie of FLAK Regiment 51 , the book goes right up to his capture and POW time in Lager B4/68 !!

    He was promoted to Unteroffizier in 1942 !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Default Re: Wehrpass - Luftwaffe translation and how to valuate?

    200-250 USD is a lot of money I think. It's a common document.
    They are common but the price has slowly increased so they are around the $200 mark now.

    Morris

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    Here is a history of FLAK Regt 51 showing they serves in Poland , France and Russia as part of 18th Armee , Armee Gruppe Nord !!

    Lexikon der Wehrmacht - Artillerie-Verbnde der Luftwaffe

    I agree with Lebus $200 -250 is too high a prcie for a book such as this , maybe around 100 euros would be a better price for a Luftwaffe book in this condition.

    cheers

    Paul
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    The pricing for this item all rests on the last entry on Page 17 - Lei.Flak-Abteilung 1001 (ETr.) - and his previous unit. 2./Lei.Flak-Abt 1001 was formed from 6./Flak-Rgt 155 and Flak-Rgt 155 was responsible for the launching of the V-1. Can you show Page 4 please to see what unit he served in before 2./Lei.Flak-Abt 1001 or it may well be that his previous unit is the one blacked out on Page 17. What - if any - role Lei.Flak.Abt 1001 had in the V weapons I have no idea - it might be that they had none and Flak-Rgt 155 was just used to form them but if he was involved in the V Weapons then it turns an 80 Euros Soldbuch (nice as it is he doesn't seem to of won any awards which is strange for a soldier who served from 1939 - is there a page not shown that shows what he won?) into a 300+ Euros one - although prices are always subjective.

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    Default Re: Wehrpass - Luftwaffe translation and how to valuate?

    Very interesting Kevin and a good spot on those units we'll wait for more photos
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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