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    An interesting early Navy dagger with ZIK mark and 1944 date on one side ricasso with number just over 13000 on the other. Complete with hangers.
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    Very nice dagger!
    Regards,
    Dimas

    my Skype: warrelics

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    Thanks, I'll try to get better photos of the markings.

    The very shallow scabbard decoration is interesting and there is no lock mechanism. Is this the first pattern of this dagger?

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    Quote by pjm View Post
    Thanks, I'll try to get better photos of the markings.

    The very shallow scabbard decoration is interesting and there is no lock mechanism. Is this the first pattern of this dagger?
    This is the pattern of 1943r - No lock until 1948r if I recall correctly...

    The scabbard decoration I would think is normal for this first try. I suppose the first recipients of these were higher-ups and/or were privileged. They probably spent more time polishing into oblivion the weak engravings of their Военно-Морской Кортик than the scuffs on their boots ...

    I am proud to show mine, not marked ZIK (but made by whom? Dim? ) with it's original "under the skirt" belt... Would not the Fascist Invaders of the Kriegsmarine be flattered?
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    Hi guys


    I've always wonderd if the soviets copied the design of the hangers from their German Kriegsmarine 'colleagues'?


    Greetz

    Nick VR

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    To me the metal parts of the hanger ware not made by the same factory as the one who made the dagger.
    However I like the lion's head, it is a patern I do not recognize immediatly.
    The S shapped buckle could be Belgian. But thise a rather commun attribute in Europe at the 19th century. Could even be Imperial Russia.
    Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
    http://out-of-congo.eklablog.com/

    cheers
    |<ris

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    Quote by Nick VR View Post
    Hi guys


    I've always wonderd if the soviets copied the design of the hangers from their German Kriegsmarine 'colleagues'?


    Greetz

    Nick VR
    Nick, the soviets make their daggers similar to Imperial Russian daggers
    Regards,
    Dimas

    my Skype: warrelics

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    Quote by stuka f View Post
    To me the metal parts of the hanger ware not made by the same factory as the one who made the dagger.
    However I like the lion's head, it is a patern I do not recognize immediatly.
    The S shapped buckle could be Belgian. But thise a rather commun attribute in Europe at the 19th century. Could even be Imperial Russia.
    For sure daggers made by one other factory than the equipment. And equiplment parts could be vary, due of a lot of factories was made them
    Regards,
    Dimas

    my Skype: warrelics

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    Quote by Dimas View Post
    ... And equiplment parts could be vary, due of a lot of factories was made them
    I just had a look at the M4 list of factories for III Reich buckels. Amazed how much there where!!
    Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
    http://out-of-congo.eklablog.com/

    cheers
    |<ris

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    If it is of any intrest to some one. I do still have a die very similar or even similar; to make the "S" shapped buckel, as on the picture. If you like some pictures I'll be glad to do so, it only could take a while as I do not know where I put it.
    Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
    http://out-of-congo.eklablog.com/

    cheers
    |<ris

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