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SS Buckles to collect: The ultimate list
Years that I did not publish any updates in this particular field of collecting. Years collectors (and leeches) were asking for it. So today you finally got it in your Forum as well.
This list is the result of over 20 years of investigations, time and money consuming.
Nobody has any idea about how many hundreds of hours it took me to reach then closely verify the accuracy of this list.
In this list you will find several "Named by JP Redeuilh". Why? Because it is true. Like Type 1 or Type whatever, I indeed also created those Types many years ago. Some collectors are kind to remember this but most don't.
So, I will kindly ask ANYBODY using this list or content, for future reference, comment, publication or duplication to be honest and preserve its origin and so my work. Most leeches, as I call them, don't do anything since getting credit is more rewarding than giving it. So the choice to refer is your but please do it. It is just respect and will not cost you anything.
I will update by segments, then I will add pictures and availability. So the full thread will take several days / weeks
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11-06-2018 03:16 PM
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Nickel Silver Buckles (EM/NCO) 1931 to 1936:
Big Head (Named by JP Redeuilh) / Hammerhead (Collector's name)
Unmarked Big Head – Regular Catch
Unmarked Big Head – Legged Catch
Cracked Wing (Named by JP Redeuilh)
Unmarked Cracked Wing – No crack
Unmarked Cracked Wing – Cracked
Ges.Gesch. Marked Cracked Wing
Fat Eagle (Probably made by Hermann Schwerter-Menden)
Unmarked Fat Eagle
O&C GES.GESCH. Marked Fat Eagle
Forte Crête (Named by JP Redeuilh). Straight wings on back) This is also refereed as earless in this Forum
Unmarked Forte Crête
Short Wings (Named by Blazej). Almost square buckle & short wings eagle
Unmarked Short Wings
Scroll (Named by JP Redeuilh). Right Scroll is next to exclamation point
Unmarked Scroll
Long feathers Neck (Named by JP Redeuilh). Very long feathers on neck.
Unmarked Long feathers Neck
Twin Over (Named by JP Redeuilh). Almost identical to an Overhoff buckle
Unmarked Twin Over
Ges.Gesch. Marked Twin Over
Rotated Swastika Maker 1
Unmarked Rotated Swastika Maker 1
Rotated Swastika Maker 2
Unmarked Rotated Swastika Maker 2
GZM (Made only in Danzig. Probably by R.Reich)
Early Marking (GZD)
GZM M1/131
Ground Off GZM
Friedrich Keller
Unmarked F.Keller
Giesse & Schmidt, Ruhla
Unmarked G&S
Oeil Cerné (Named by JP Redeuilh)
This was attributed to Rudolf Fisher by JP Redeuilh BUT possible mistake
Unmarked
Berg & Nolte
RZM 36
Martin Winter
Overstamped with RZM 57
RZM 57 only
Steinhauer & Lück
RZM 63
Assmann
O&C ges.gesch.
O&C ges.gesch. + RZM 155/36 SS
Overhoff & Cie
O&C Ges.gesch. DRGM
O&C Ges.gesch Type 1
O&C Ges.gesch Type 2
OVERHOFF & CIE / LÜDENSCHEID GES.GESCH.
O&C ges.gesch.
O&C ges.ge sch.
Ground off Overhoff’s
O&C ges.gesch. + RZM
RZM 24
RZM SS 35/36
RZM SS 36/36
Unmarked
Nickel Silver Buckles (Officers) 1931 to 1936:
Steel Unmarked
Period authenticity is yet to prove. There is so far NO valid evidence this buckle was ever manufactured before 1946. The ONLY link to it's possible authenticity was brought by long time collector Marc Verstraete who one day purchased it for his own collection, now gone. His belief became an assumption. I still list it here since, if I cannot prove it's authenticity, I cannot deny it either.
Overhoff & Cie
Uumarked
O&C Ges.gesch.
O&C ges.gesch.
O&C ges.ge sch.
O&C ges.gesch. + RZM
O&C ges.ge sch. + RZM
O&C ges.ge sch. + RZM 24
RZM 24 + GES.GESCH.
RZM 24
RZM SS 35/36
RZM SS 36/36
Last edited by Ben Evans; 11-09-2018 at 09:29 AM.
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Aluminum Buckles (EM/NCO) 1937 to 1940:
Assmann & Söhne
Rotated swastika (also called Prototype)
RZM 155/39 SS Type 1
RZM 155/39 SS Type 2
RZM 155/40 SS
R.Sieper
Rotated swastika (also called Prototype)
RZM 822/37 SS Type 1
RZM 822/37 SS Type 2
RZM 822/38 SS (Large Numbers - Type 1)
RZM 822/38 SS (Small Numbers / Thin ring around SS - Type 2)
RZM 822/38 SS (Small Numbers / Thick ring around SS - Type 3)
Unmarked Injection Molded (also called Alu Flat Back)
Overhoff
RZM 36/37 SS (Marking by Catch)
RZM 36/37 SS (Regular marking under post sleeve)
RZM 36/38 SS (Regular marking under post sleeve)
RZM 36/39 SS (Regular marking under post sleeve)
RZM 36/40 SS (Type 1 One ring around SS - Regular marking under post sleeve)
RZM 36/40 SS (Type 2 Two rings around SS -Regular marking under post sleeve)
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Aluminum Buckles (SS Officer) 1937 to 1940:
Assmann
Unmarked (Believed to be prototype - buckle without prongs)
Unmarked (Believed to be prototype - buckle with prongs)
Overhoff
RZM 36/37 oLc SS
RZM 36/38 oLc SS
RZM 36/39 oLc SS (Small Fonts)
RZM 36/39 oLc SS (Large Fonts)
RZM 36/39 oLc SS (Large Fonts) overstamped with Large oLc
RZM 36/40 oLc SS
Exact same as SS officer buckles but Gold finished
RZM 36/39 oLc SS
RZM 36/40 oLc SS
Christian Th. Dicke
RZM SS 257/39
Police buckles bearing RZM/SS markings
Overhoff
RZM 36/38 oLc SS over ges.gesch. oLc (Gold Finished)
Christian Th. Dicke
RZM M4/22 SS DRGM
DRGM RZM 257/40 SS
DRGM RZM 257/40 SS (Gold Finished)
RZM 257/41 SS
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Jean Pierre Redeuilh
Years that I did not publish any updates in this particular field of collecting. Years collectors (and leeches) were asking for it. So today you finally got it in your Forum as well.
This list is the result of over 20 years of investigations, time and money consuming.
Nobody has any idea about how many hundreds of hours it took me to reach then closely verify the accuracy of this list.
In this list you will find several "Named by JP Redeuilh". Why? Because it is true. Like Type 1 or Type whatever, I indeed also created those Types many years ago. Some collectors are kind to remember this but most don't.
So, I will kindly ask ANYBODY using this list or content, for future reference, comment, publication or duplication to be honest and preserve its origin and so my work. Most leeches, as I call them, don't do anything since getting credit is more rewarding than giving it. So the choice to refer is your but please do it. It is just respect and will not cost you anything.
I will update by segments, then I will add pictures and availability. So the full thread will take several days / weeks
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Two deleted posts were interesting for this thread, so I will try my best to post again their content:
- Wim, the most respected and largest source for period documents, was asking why there was no mention of Haunstein & Kirchhof from Leipzig in my list. The reason been is that a catalog from H&K shows indeed a drawing of an SS EM buckle been offered for sale along with several others buckles. But those are just rough drawings part of a catalog including various metal items ranging from rivets to springs for chairs and mattresses. Also several catalogs (including notorious Assmann's) were including items the maker was also selling, not just manufacturing. For that reason, this list includes ONLY physical SS buckles one can find and collect. All those SS buckle EXIST. I saw myself any of them and anybody can expect to find at least one.
This bring us to the second interesting post:
Andrea, who took great care to condense in a first comprehensive list what was spread over several other Forums, asked me a question about Bakelite SS buckles. My answer is that I do not expect to list any SS buckle made from Bakelite or post any picture about one. Reason? I never, ever, saw one. I saw documents dating from 1936 and 1941 dealing with production of Bakelite / thermoplastic buckles , I saw also Heer buckles made from such material, but never SAW anything related to a SS buckle made from Bakelite. The existence of a SS buckle made from Bakelite, for what is my concern, was an input from past collector Marc Verstraete. He swore to have seen not just one but two for sale at the same time. Following his own input, one was in perfect condition and the other was broken in two parts. Still following his own input, the broken one was sold to someone he does not remember, and the other in perfect condition to a collector he gave me name of. Several time I talked to this collector who smiled to me but never agreed even once to ever owned such buckle.
So, I am someone who needs to see or touch to believe. I did not see one, I did not touch one either. So, until that happens such SS buckle remains for me just a legend.
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Steel Buckles (EM/NCO) 1940 to 1945:
Overhoff
RZM 36/42 SS Type 1
RZM 36/42 SS Type 2
RZM 36/42 SS Type 3
RZM 36/43 SS
RZM 36/44 SS
OLC (within large diamond)
ges. gesch.
Unmarked (Green finished + Silver finished (Several kinds))
Assmann
RZM 155/40 SS Type 1 (marking by the catch)
RZM 155/40 SS Type 2 (marking under post-sleeve)
RZM 155/40 SS Crank Catch
RZM 155/43 SS Type 1 (same catch as 40's)
RZM 155/43 SS Type 2 (U shaped catch) (Green finished + Grey finished + Silver finished (Several kinds))
Josef Feix & Söhne
JFS
Unmarked
C.Robert Dold (RODO)
RODO Type 1 (NO Rope below eagle's beak) (2 finishes)
RODO Type 2 (Rope below eagle's beak) (4 finishes)
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I forgot in the above post to add that the 155/40 T2 can be found Green and Silver finished from factory. Even if it is possible to find several SS buckles from earlier periods been field repainted in green for use by the Waffen-SS, the green painted 155/40 T2 are considered the first SS buckles factory finished exclusively for the Waffen-SS.
Zinc Buckles (EM/NCO) 1942 to 1945:
Richard Sieper
RZM 822/42 SS (Green finished + Silver finished)
Zinc Buckles (Officers) 1942 to 1945:
Overhoff
RZM 36/42 oLc SS
RZM 36/43 oLc SS
ges.gesch. over oLc
Emil Jüttner
Marked with EJL logo
Unmarked
Exact same as SS officer buckles but Gold finished
Marked with EJL logo
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This ends the listing part. When time permits I will continue this thread with pictures and rarity level for each buckle.
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