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    ops BEG YOU PARDON I was "so fast at all" :-D NO Assmann but R.S.&S. sorrysorrysorry!!!!

    Andrea

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    ps list makers UPDATED:

    O & Cie (Overhoff, nichel, early full title reverse ampersand variant )
    O & Cie Early (Overhoff, nichel, umarked)
    O & Cie RZM (Overhoff, nichel, RZM marked variant)
    O & Cie Early (Overhoff, nichel, “HAMMER HEAD” unmarked variant)
    O & Cie Early (Overhoff, nichel, “FAT EAGLE”, 2 variants: marked and unmarked)
    O & Cie ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel)
    O & Cie ges ge(space)sch (Overhoff, nichel, spacing title variant)
    O & Cie Ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel,marking variant 2 types of BOLD marking char set)
    ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel,”name ground off” marking variant)
    RZM 24 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 35/36 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 36/36 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 36/37(Overhoff, al)
    RZM 36/38 (Overhoff, al)
    RZM 36/39 (Overhoff,al)
    RZM 36/40 (Overhoff, al)
    RZM 36/42 (Overhoff, steel)
    RZM 36/43 (Overhoff, steel)
    RZM 36/44 (Overhoff, steel)
    O & Cie (Overhoff, steel unmarked late war)
    O & Cie (Overhoff, steel M4/27 RZM marked)
    “Crancked Wing Eagle” (nichel, variant early unmarked)
    “Rotated Swastika” (nichel variant unmarked)
    RZM 63 (Steinhauer & Luck, nichel)
    RZM 57 (M Winter, nichel, 2 variants: 57 RZM SS marked, 57 RZM SS ges gesch MuK marked)
    257 Christian Theodore Dicke*
    Friedrich Keller (nichel, unmarked)
    Gau Essen
    “Big Eagle prototipe” RS&S (al, several catch types)
    822 Unmarked RS&S (al)
    822/37 RS&S (al)
    822/38 RS&S*(al, 3 types of marking variants)
    822/39 RS&S*(al)
    822/42 RS&S (zinc)
    822/42 RS&S (zinc, umarked)
    Paul Meybauer, Berlin (nichel, unmarked)
    Rudolf Fischer, Nixdorf (nichel, early umarked)
    155/36 RZM – O & Cie (nichel, marked variant)
    155/39 (Assmann, al)
    155/40 (Assmann, al)
    155/40 (Assman, steel, 2 variants: 1type marked near the catch bar, 2type marked under the prongs bar, several catch types)
    155/43 (Assmann, steel)
    JFS (steel, late war, 2 variants: marked and unmarked)
    RODO (Robert Dold, Offenburg, steel, 2 types: type 1 rope under the beak,type2 no rope under the beak)
    RODO (Robert Dold, Offenburg, steel, DARK BLUE color variant)
    GZM M1/131 Variant
    “Plain back” late war variant
    Haunstein & Kirchhof, Leipzig
    Berge & Nolte

    OFFICCERS BUCKLES
    O & Cie ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 24 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 36/36 (nichel)
    RZM 36/37
    RZM 36/38
    RZM 36/39
    RZM 36/43 (zinc)
    257 (Christian Theodore Dicke*)
    EMIL JUNTER (ejl marked)
    “New Eagle” prototipe with SS letters in the eagle claws

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    Quote by greenwave7 View Post
    ps list makers UPDATED:

    O & Cie (Overhoff, nichel, early full title reverse ampersand variant )
    O & Cie Early (Overhoff, nichel, umarked)
    O & Cie RZM (Overhoff, nichel, RZM marked variant)
    O & Cie Early (Overhoff, nichel, “HAMMER HEAD” unmarked variant)
    O & Cie Early (Overhoff, nichel, “FAT EAGLE”, 2 variants: marked and unmarked)
    O & Cie ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel)
    O & Cie ges ge(space)sch (Overhoff, nichel, spacing title variant)
    O & Cie Ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel,marking variant 2 types of BOLD marking char set)
    ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel,”name ground off” marking variant)
    RZM 24 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 35/36 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 36/36 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 36/37(Overhoff, al)
    RZM 36/38 (Overhoff, al)
    RZM 36/39 (Overhoff,al)
    RZM 36/40 (Overhoff, al)
    RZM 36/42 (Overhoff, steel)
    RZM 36/43 (Overhoff, steel)
    RZM 36/44 (Overhoff, steel)
    O & Cie (Overhoff, steel unmarked late war)
    O & Cie (Overhoff, steel M4/27 RZM marked)
    “Crancked Wing Eagle” (nichel, variant early unmarked)
    “Rotated Swastika” (nichel variant unmarked)
    RZM 63 (Steinhauer & Luck, nichel)
    RZM 57 (M Winter, nichel, 2 variants: 57 RZM SS marked, 57 RZM SS ges gesch MuK marked)
    257 Christian Theodore Dicke*
    Friedrich Keller (nichel, unmarked)
    Gau Essen
    “Big Eagle prototipe” RS&S (al, several catch types)
    822 Unmarked RS&S (al)
    822/37 RS&S (al)
    822/38 RS&S*(al, 3 types of marking variants)
    822/39 RS&S*(al)
    822/42 RS&S (zinc)
    822/42 RS&S (zinc, umarked)
    Paul Meybauer, Berlin (nichel, unmarked)
    Rudolf Fischer, Nixdorf (nichel, early umarked)
    155/36 RZM – O & Cie (nichel, marked variant)
    155/39 (Assmann, al)
    155/40 (Assmann, al)
    155/40 (Assman, steel, 2 variants: 1type marked near the catch bar, 2type marked under the prongs bar, several catch types)
    155/43 (Assmann, steel)
    JFS (steel, late war, 2 variants: marked and unmarked)
    RODO (Robert Dold, Offenburg, steel, 2 types: type 1 rope under the beak,type2 no rope under the beak)
    RODO (Robert Dold, Offenburg, steel, DARK BLUE color variant)
    GZM M1/131 Variant
    “Plain back” late war variant
    Haunstein & Kirchhof, Leipzig
    Berge & Nolte

    OFFICCERS BUCKLES
    O & Cie ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 24 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 36/36 (nichel)
    RZM 36/37
    RZM 36/38
    RZM 36/39
    RZM 36/43 (zinc)
    257 (Christian Theodore Dicke*)
    EMIL JUNTER (ejl marked)
    “New Eagle” prototipe with SS letters in the eagle claws
    Many errors in this list. Give me few days and I will try to update it.

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    Many Thanks JP!!!

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    Quote by greenwave7 View Post
    ps list makers UPDATED:

    OVERHOFF & CIE (Overhoff, nichel, early full title reverse ampersand variant ) There is no variant. They are all with reverse ampersand
    No early Overhoff is known unmarked
    o early Overhoff is known unmarkedO & C ges gesch RZM (Overhoff, nichel, RZM marked variant)
    O & Cie Early (Overhoff, nichel, “HAMMER HEAD” unmarked variant) The "Hammer Head" was NOT made by Overhoff. Also there is 2 variants of the so called "Hammer head"
    O & Cie Early (Overhoff, nichel, “FAT EAGLE”, 2 variants: marked and unmarked) The "Fat Eagle" was NOT made by Overhoff
    O & C ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel)
    O & Cie ges ge(space)sch (Overhoff, nichel, spacing title variant)
    O & Cie Ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel, Capital G marking variant - 2 types of markings)
    ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel,”name ground off” marking variant)
    O&C Ges gesch. DRGM (Overoff / 2 variants
    RZM 24 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 35/36 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 36/36 (Overhoff, nichel)
    RZM 36/37(Overhoff, al) 2 variants. Marking by the catch (possibly Type 1) and marking under postsleeve
    RZM 36/38 (Overhoff, al)
    RZM 36/39 (Overhoff,al)
    RZM 36/40 (Overhoff, al) 2 variants: single ring around SS (Type 1) / Double rings around SS (Type 2)
    RZM 36/42 (Overhoff, steel) 3 variants
    RZM 36/43 (Overhoff, steel)
    RZM 36/44 (Overhoff, steel)
    steel unmarked late war - Overhoff
    steel M4/27 marked - Overhoff
    “Crancked Wing Eagle” (nichel, variant early unmarked)
    “Rotated Swastika” (nichel variant unmarked) Two makers
    RZM 63 (Steinhauer & Luck, nichel)
    RZM 57 (M Winter, nichel, 2 variants: 57 RZM SS marked, 57 RZM SS ges gesch MuK marked)
    257 Christian Theodore Dicke - Only for officer known
    Friedrich Keller (nichel, unmarked)
    Gau Essen Nothing allows to believe the Gau Essen ever been a buckle for the SS
    “Big Eagle prototipe” RS&S (al, several catch types) Only one catch type. The other was made by Assmann, not Sieper.
    Unmarked RS&S (al)
    822/37 RS&S (al) Two types
    822/38 RS&S*(al, 3 types of marking variants)
    822/39 RS&S*(al) ????
    822/42 RS&S (zinc)
    822/42 RS&S (zinc, umarked) ????
    Paul Meybauer, Berlin (nichel, unmarked) Wrong. It was my mistake. Is Giesse & Schmidt, Ruhla
    Rudolf Fischer, Nixdorf (nichel, early umarked) Yet to confirm to be RF
    155/36 RZM – O & Cie (nichel, marked variant) Made by Assmann. 2 variants. Variant without RZM/SS contract is more common.
    155/39 (Assmann, al) 2 variants
    155/40 (Assmann, al)
    155/40 (Assman, steel, 3 variants: 1type marked near the catch bar, 2type marked under the prongs bar, several catch types, Type 3 crank catch)
    155/43 (Assmann, steel) 2 variants / Types
    JFS (steel, late war, 2 variants: marked and unmarked)
    RODO (Robert Dold, Offenburg, steel, 2 types: type 1 rope under the beak,type2 no rope under the beak) It is the oposite
    RODO (Robert Dold, Offenburg, steel, DARK BLUE color variant)
    GZM M1/131 Variant 2 variants with one where the marking was removed
    “Plain back” late war variant ???
    Haunstein & Kirchhof, Leipzig
    RZM 36 (Berge & Nolte)
    "CRACKED WING" early 3 variants: one marked + Two unmarked
    + At least 6 more early unmarked by various makers

    OFFICCERS BUCKLES
    Unmarked steel
    Unmarked nickel
    O & Cie ges gesch (Overhoff, nichel) + O&C ges ge sch + O&C Ges gesch + O&C ges gesch RZM + O&C ges ge sch RZM 24
    RZM 24 (Overhoff, nichel) + RZM 24 GES GESCH
    RZM 35/36 (nickel Overhoff)
    RZM 36/36 (nichel) Overhoff
    RZM 36/37 (al, Overhoff)
    RZM 36/38
    RZM 36/39 2 variants: small hallmarks / large hallmarks
    RZM 36/40
    RZM 36/42 (zinc)
    RZM 36/43 (zinc)
    257/39 (Christian Theodore Dicke*)
    EMIL JUNTER (ejl marked) + 1 variant unmarked
    “New Eagle” prototipe with SS letters in the eagle claws (Assmann - 2 variants)
    See in red above

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    Great JP as usual!!!! tomorrow i'll aswer to you wih more questions 'bout this list, can I?

    Cheers
    Andrea

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    PS as you told to me I've done homeworks, so many of your corrections are just done in the past (infect the list was not upgaded), You told to me to study for and I'll tried, I hope...

    Andrea

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    Quote by greenwave7 View Post
    PS as you told to me I've done homeworks, so many of your corrections are just done in the past (infect the list was not upgaded), You told to me to study for and I'll tried, I hope...

    Andrea
    You did and it is the main reason for my input (and the fact I have more time today helped too...)

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    OK here we go:
    first of all beg you pardon for my typing english mistakes up above.
    Second: GENERAL QUESTIONS before reading the list:

    What are the POLIZEI OFFICERS buckle belonging to SS? Only the SS marked or also DRGM and ASSMANN marked ones?

    What are the right SS buckle belonging to the others nations? (see the bottom of the list below)...

    THE LIST off SS buckle ('till now seen...)
    EM/NCO BUCKLES alphabetical maker index

    BERG & NOLTE AG, LÜDENSCHEID

    RZM 36 (ni)

    FRIEDRICH KELLER, OBERSTEIN

    (unmarked) (ni)

    FW ASSMAN & SHÖNE, LÜDENSCHEID

    Early ASSMAN “WOLF EAGLE” (ni)
    Early ASSMAN “WOLF EAGLE” – O & C ges. gesch. (ni)
    RZM 155/36 SS – O & C ges. gesch. (ni)
    RZM 155/39 SS (al)
    Type 1
    Type 2 mark variant
    RZM 155/40 SS (al)
    RZM 155/40 SS (steel)
    Type 1 mark near catch
    Type 1 straight legs vairant
    Type 2 mark under porngs bar
    Type 2 green variant
    Type 2 green variant Assman catch
    RZM 155/43 SS (steel)
    Blue gray variant 1
    Blue gray variant 2
    Big Eagle rotaed swastika (prototipe, unmarked) (al)

    GIESSE & SCHMIDT, RUHLA, THUR

    (unmarked) (ni)
    pointed eye variant(unmarked) (ni)???

    JOSEPH FELIX & SÖHNE, GABLONZ

    JFS marked (steel)
    JFS unmarked (steel)

    MARTIN WINTER, MUNICH

    57 RZM SS (ni)
    57 RZM SS GES GESCH MW (ni)

    OVERHOFF & CIE, LÜDENSCHEID

    OVERHOFF & CIE ges. gesch. LÜDENSCHEID (full MOTTO reverse ampersand) (ni)
    Type 1 left marking
    Type 2 centered marking)
    Type 3 right marking
    O & C ges. gesch. RZM (ni)
    O & C ges. gesch. (ni)
    variant (ni over brass)
    O & C ges. ge (SPACE) sch. (ni)
    upper rear marking (near catch) variant
    up rear marking (near catch) variant
    central rear marking (near catch) variant
    down rear marking variant
    front impressed variant
    front marking variant
    nichel over brass variant
    O & C Ges. gesch. (ni)
    Type 1
    Type 1 nichle over brass
    Type 1 O & C Ges. gesch. DRGM (marked)
    Type 2 (square mark)
    O & C ges. gesch. (FAT EAGLE) (ni) (NOT A O&C buckle!)
    O& C ges. gesch. (”name ground off”) (ni)
    RZM 24 (ni)
    RZM 35/36 SS (ni)
    RZM 36/36 SS (ni)
    RZM 36/37 SS (al)
    Type 1 mark near catch
    Type 2 mark under prongs bar
    Type 2 green variant
    RZM 36/38 SS (al)
    RZM 36/39 SS (al)
    RZM 36/40 SS (al)
    Type 1 single ring on SS logo mark
    Type 2 double ring on SS logo mark
    RZM 36/42 SS (steel)
    Type 1
    Type 1 blue gray variant
    Type 2 mark variant
    Type 3 mark variant
    RZM 36/43 SS (steel)
    green variant
    blue gray variant
    RZM 36/44 SS (steel)
    O & C (M4/27 RZM) (steel)
    O & C (late war, unmarked) (steel)
    green variant
    O & C (late war, unmarked) (steel+ni plated)

    RICHARD SIEPER & SOHN, LÜDENSCHEID

    RZM 822/37 SS (al)
    Type 1 no rope near head
    Type 2 rope near head
    Type 2 rope near head green variant
    RZM 822/38 SS (al)
    Type 1 big cyfers mark
    Type 2 big ring mark
    Type 2 leather tab variant
    Type 2 green variant
    Type 3 small cyfers mark
    Type 3 green variant
    RZM 822/39 SS (al)???
    RZM 822/42 SS (zn)
    flat back (unmarked) (al)
    flat back green variant (unmarked) (al)
    flat back (unmarked) (zn)
    “Big Eagle” rotated swastika (prototipe, marked) (al)

    ROBERT DOLD, OFFENBURG

    RODO (steel)

    Type 1 no rope beak
    Type 1 no rope beak dark blue variant
    Type 2 rope beak
    Type 2 rope beak dark blue variant

    RUDOLF FISCHER, NIXDORF

    (unmarked) (ni)
    (unmarked) green variant (ni)

    STEINHAUER & LUCK, LÜDENSCHEID

    SS 63 RZM (ni)

    * UNATTRIBUITED MAKER EM/NCO BUCKLES SECTION (26/02/2012)

    Early (unmarked) (ni)

    Early (unmarked) (brass/ni)

    Early “CRANKED WINGS EAGLE” (unmarked) (ni)
    Type 1 visible crank
    Type 2 without crank variant
    Type 3 GES GESCH (marked) variant

    Early “FAT EAGLE” (unmarked) (ni)
    O&C GES GESCH (marked) variant

    Early “FLAT EARS” (unmarked) (ni)

    Early “HAMMER HEAD” (unmarked) (ni)
    Type 1
    Type 2 classic early brass catch

    Brass (unmarked)

    Stylized head-chest eagle (unmarked) (ni) (from JP)

    Early “HEIMWEHR STEIERMARK” (unmarked) (ni)
    prongs variant
    Ges gesch (marked) variant

    Early GZM M1/131 (ni)
    variant (unmarked) (ni)

    Early “ROAST HEAD “ (unmarked) (ni)

    “Rotated Swastika” types (unmarked) (ni,ni/cu)

    OFFICERS BUCKLES alphabetical maker index

    CHRISTIAN THEODORE DICKE, LÜDENSCHEID

    RZM 257 39 SS DRGM(al)
    DRGM RZM 257/40 SS TYPE 1 mark(POLICE) (steel)
    DRGM RZM 257/40 SS TYPE 2 mark(POLICE) (steel)
    DRGM RZM 257/41 SS TYPE 1 mark (POLICE) (steel)
    DRGM RZM 257/41 SS TYPE 2 mark(POLICE) (steel)

    EMIL JUTTNER, LÜDENSCHEID

    EJL marked
    EJL unmarked

    OVERHOFF & CIE, LÜDENSCHEID

    O&C ges. gesch. (ni)
    gold variant
    O&C Ges. gesch. (ni)
    OLC ges. gesch. (ni)
    O&C ges. ge (SPACE) sch. (ni)
    O&Cie ges. ge (SPACE) sch. RZM (ni)
    O&C ges. gesch. RZM (ni)
    O&C ges. gesch. RZM 24 (ni)
    RZM 24 GES GESCH (ni)
    RZM 24 (ni)
    SS RZM 36/35 (ni)
    SS RZM 36/36 (ni)
    RZM 36/37 SS OLC
    RZM 36/38 SS OLC
    Type 1
    Type 2 rear variant???
    Type 3 rear variant???
    RZM 36/39 SS OLC
    Type 1
    Type 2 rear mark variant
    RZM 36/40 SS OLC (al)
    RZM 36/40 SS OLC (zn)
    RZM 36/42 SS OLC
    RZM 36/43 SS OLC
    (unmarked) variant

    * UNATTRIBUITED MAKER OFFICERS BUCKLE SECTION (10/07/2011)

    “New Eagle” prototipe with SS letters in the eagle claws (ni)

    OTHER NATIONS SS BUCKLES (unmarked)


    BELGIAN EM/NCO

    Type 1 “S GENERAL GOUVERNEMENT” logo
    Type 2 “S GENERAL GOUVERNEMENT” logo catch variant

    CROATIAN EM/NCO

    “IN TREUE FEST” logo

    CROATIAN OFFICERS

    “IN TREUE FEST” logo

    DANISH EM/NCO

    Type 1 (sonnerad swastika) “WORLEHEU” logo
    Type 2 (sonnerad swastika) “WORLEHEU” logo catch variant
    Type 3 (sonnerad swatsika) “TROSKAB MIN ÆRE” logo
    SCHALBURG (sonnerad swatsika) logo types

    FLEMISH EM/NCO

    Type “SS” laurel logo
    Type 1“RECHT EN TROUW” logo
    Type 2“RECHT EN TROUW” logo rear, catch variant
    Type 3“RECHT EN TROUW” logo rear, catch variant

    SLOVAKIAN EM/NCO

    Type “dm - Ehre, Blut und Boden”

    SLOVAKIAN OFFICERS

    Type “EHRE BLUT UND BODEN”


    Cheers
    Andrea

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    Police: In 1938 Police forces became under control of the SS. You can find and read uniform regulations about this. It is not hard to find.
    Foreign Nations: I am sorry but I do not have any knowledge in this area. Only German made.

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