a) a fake production with the exact same marking already exists - recorded
b) No records of any other original made in 1941.
I rest my case here. It doesn't matter anymore. You can't prove it's fake, I cannot prove it's real.
People probably just have to make up their own mind in this.
I don't want to argue here anymore because I accually don't care anymore...
Good evening gents, just got in from work, I suggest everyone takes a chill pill for a while and have a look around and try and find evidence as to if the makings are indeed genuine or fake added post war, what a I dont want is a slanging match or the thread gets closed. Let me have my tea and a coffee and I will see what I can find
Gents, I had thought I had seen this maker mark before, we have it in our archives, this is my take on this, looking at the buckle that Kirby posted with these markings look at the hook on the belt and general make up of it especially the stitching, in my opinion I do not like this belt
This belt and marking was discussed in my thread about my belt on WAF. Offcourse I also do not like this marking.
It's RZM 41 and makermarked 1943. So there's no logic.
But my belt isn't makermarked.
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I found another RZM marking. This one is dated 38.
This is the markings from both belts put together, your belt Krisse is 1000% original, in ref to the markings to me they have been done with a different stamp. Hopefully Wim Saris will read this thread and if he has time he may look through his archives and find something on the makers mark, FB might even chime in if he has anything.
Just a thought and only a thought I wonder if the 201 marking came from M5/201 (uniform & Effects) M5/201 Zieh-, Press- und Stanzwerk G.m.b.R., Zwintschöna b. Halle a. d. S.. I a currently searching the net trying to find if a fake belt can be bought with these markings, however I cannot spend lots of time tonight as I would like to relax before bed, I work a 13 hr day