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Thoughts on this SS RZM 57 buckle and belt?

Article about: Hi guys, Advice needed on this buckle and belt. It's a nickle RZM 57, non magnetic, with a belt stamped RZM 01/38 SS. Apologies for rubbish pics.... So, this will be Allgemeine then? Rare an

  1. #51


    Just tried it JP, did not get that much to be honest, did you type it is like that in google? RZM 101/38 SS

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    Exactly this: rzm 101/38 ss
    then click on IMAGES on top. My link is that one;

    I do not know if you, in Europe, have access to everything. But here it is. Click on the image and then on "visit site".

    Here are links for the open claws belt
    Militaria Deutschland Allgemein (ab Los 281, 84. Auktion) ARCHIV!

    SS leader
    Waffen-SS (ab Los 61, 83. Auktion) ARCHIV!

    SS dagger loop • Toon onderwerp - SS en SA dolk onderdelen (ook zeldzaam ss riempje)

    SS cross strap
    615: German WWII SS black leather shoulder strap : Lot 615

    and copy of text page 36 of a pdf sales catalog I cannot upload (Please note the HJ buckle is attached to the belt

    A Second World War Hitler
    Jugend Leaders Belt Buckle, the
    reverse hook stamped 'RZM4/46',
    fitted to a black leather belt,
    bearing signs of an original white
    overlay, the adjusting, leather tab
    marked 'RZM 101-38', possibly a
    Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler
    enlisted man's parade belt,
    converted for use with the Hitler

  4. #53


    The only other item I can find at the mo is a the same HJ leaders belt and buckle with this marking but no pictures that JP found in the above post. I will try and research who the leather maker is and see if they did indeed exist, at mo its not really looking good for this mark

  5. #54


    An open claw belt with a 1938 SS contract stamp should be enough IMO ...

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    Well here are the dagger loops
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  7. #56


    Do not bother anymore. I believe we have all the answer we needed.

  8. #57


    Already done JP, moved the pics to the fake markings thread

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    i have doubts myself with this belt .

    Than it must be a very very old fake .

    The belt i show was with the real good 155/43 green buckle , a gift of a veterans family , in the 1983/4

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    My thoughts about was . A 1938 stamped belt with green steel hook ? Normaly it must be aluminium in 1938
    Regards ,

    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks

    Link to my collection :

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    ...and the name tag is for a Heer soldier, not someone in the SS IMO

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    Just to complete this thread and definitively send the marking RZM 101/38 SS in the fake area, here are two other belts which were "upgraded" to SS level by crooks. Pictures of those two belts were once again sent to my attention (with request I upload them for you guys) by a German friend.

    Just a note for the education of newbies: two leather belts from the same maker, especially made the same year, are always showing the exact same pattern. In this thread you will find that all the belts pictured are displaying different patterns.

    We should once again Thanks this German friend who kindly submitted all those photos allowing us to definitively put a term to this discussion Click image for larger version. 

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