2 x SS Daggers

**HarvEx1RCR** · 09-04-2012, 08:07 PM

Hello all,

I've come across these two daggers for sale and would like to know your opinion on them. I don't know much about SS edged weapons so bear with me.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 09-04-2012 08:07 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Wagriff** · 09-05-2012, 05:00 AM

The Chained 36 Himmler is a monstrosity and looks to have been a put together piece that's been embellished with a poorly done and low quality inscription. The chain does not match the anodized scabbard and is probably from a late war piece as it's rusting badly. The 33 may be okey, but more and better photos would be needed-especially of the makers mark, and closer shots of the motto and grip sections. It's hard to tell if it's been polished from the photos(I'm guessing that it Has-probably when the rust blob was removed from the spot beneath the motto), but the blade Looks to be in okey shape otherwise from what I can see-aside from the damage spot beneath the motto.
Bottom line, the chained piece is worthless and not at all for consideration for a collector. The 33 in it's present condition? IF it's not been messed with to any extent more than what is apparent and obvious, you're looking at around a $1500 piece. I would advise avoiding both of them and finding yourself a better piece. They're out there and Way better investment potential than these 2 wrecks.

**Larry C** · 09-05-2012, 10:27 AM

Hi Harv,,,I agree with Wagriff on his observations. The M36 ( Chained SS ) has many issues that do not conform to other examples. Mainly the inscription and the post war Chained hanger. I have seen tarnished chains,,due to the plating types used,, but never rust to this extreme. The reverse links are too shiny almost to a mirror finish.
The m33 stands a chance but better photos ,,,and no flash,, would preferably be best,, close ups would help out alot. Regards Larry

**HarvEx1RCR** · 09-05-2012, 01:14 PM

Thanks very much for taking a look at the daggers guys, I think I'm going to just avoid them all together.

Mike

**Lakesidetrader** · 09-12-2012, 02:16 PM

Although the pictures are horrible I'm trying to see why the chained scabbard is a fake.
It's a steel based type I with an anodized scabbard and plated fittings. This is exactly how these were made.
Steel does rust and often we see these rusted.
As far as the Himmler again I could not condemn this from what I see.
Just my thoughts...