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Jacobs (!) SS dagger logo difference

Article about: Hi guys, couple of weeks ago I had the chance to buy a SS dagger with '!' from Jacobs maker. It was the same guy where I bought the Bertram SS dagger from which I've sent back because beeing

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    Hi guys,

    couple of weeks ago I had the chance to buy a SS dagger with '!' from Jacobs maker.
    It was the same guy where I bought the Bertram SS dagger from which I've sent back because beeing a parts dagger.
    But I do kept his pictures and observed the Jacobs dagger. I've found an interesting difference on the logo compared with a Original logo.

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    The logo of the dagger that was offered to me, has a double oval with the text: *JACOBS & CO°.* SOLINGEN - GRAERATH
    The logo of an Original where I compared with says: *JACOBS & CO°.* SOLINGEN - GRÄFRATH


    GRAE and GRÄF... big difference which let me think this is a fake logo.

    Is this abnormality allready known and observed in the collectorsworld?

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    Without the ".." or umlaut - the word is spelled correctly - Graefrath.... This can be seen with the different spellings of Nueremberg as an example. Now does this mean its a fake? No idea - but in the context of the language, its a correct spelling... Food for thought

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    Hi Krisse,

    I would say it's a fake because it's not spelled correctly.
    The F is missing. On the second picture you see GRAERATH...without an F.

    So it's a stinker...

    harti

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    Yes, I know, 'ä' is the same as 'ae' but in case you didn't notice, the logo with 'ae' is still missing the 'F'...

    So, you mean that when otherwise written, it should be GRÄF OR GRAEF. But this is clearly GRAERATH instead of GRÄFRATH. F = E in this case.
    I cannot imagine that the maker Jacobs, changed his logo so badly in the short amount of time these daggers were made...

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    Quote by harti View Post
    Hi Krisse,

    I would say it's a fake because it's not spelled correctly.
    The F is missing. On the second picture you see GRAERATH...without an F.

    So it's a stinker...

    harti
    Thanks Harti, that is what I'm trying to point out here.

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    Quote by Duff View Post
    Without the ".." or umlaut - the word is spelled correctly - Graefrath.... This can be seen with the different spellings of Nueremberg as an example. Now does this mean its a fake? No idea - but in the context of the language, its a correct spelling... Food for thought
    The "F" is also missing on the logo displaying the "AE"/logo with no umlaut issue = GRAERATH ---- so, it's missing a letter AND does not sport the umlaut. I have no idea about SS daggers, just wanted to point out the problem pointed to by the OP when it was misunderstood.

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    And what about the numbers..for me they look a little bit amateurish...????

    harti

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    Reason to start this thread is to inform SS dagger collectors of this issue. So watch out twice if you want to buy a Jacobs.

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    Quote by harti View Post
    And what about the numbers..for me they look a little bit amateurish...????

    harti

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    Yes Harti, indeed. It looks like that but I saw numbered daggers before that were numbered like this...

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    oops - didn't see the missing F, as I didn't expand the picture...

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    Gents a little bit of knowledge of the German language is needed here.
    ä = ae
    When you cant type a so called "umlaut" then you can replace the " by an e
    That means you either type Gräfrath or Graefrath, both are properly spelled.
    That it misses the F in the logo is of course not done....

    Regards,
    Ger

    What concerns me even more is the fact that it has a SA crossguard with the gau mark still in it.............

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