SS dagger help please

[flintlock]

Hello all
Please have a look at the attached photos and let me know what you think.
This is a dagger I may buy, depending on your comments.
I'm told the mark with the RZM logo is M7/5.
Sorry for the photos but that's all I was sent.
Many thanks
John

[CBH]

I'd want better photos , if your spending big money you should too .

[RafaelDaggers]

Hi John.
You have to bear in mind that an SS dagger expertise is a very difficult task, very gedetaieerde pics needed to give us the right impression and sometimes this is even not enough and you will need to have the dagger in hands to assess him correctly. give us clear photo, s and we help you with pleasure
M7/5 belongs to Carl Julius Krebs, Solingen and its a SA Dagger code. This code is not found on SS daggers.

[flintlock]

Thanks for your reply.
Being the code is not an ss one, I won't bother with it.
Thanks again for your help. I'll bear in mind better photos in future.
John

[Wagriff]

Fake blade junk....sorry...

[flintlock]

Can anyone recommend a good book to help identifying fake daggers.
I live right in the west of the uk and there isn't much of a chance to view and handle sa and ss daggers.
In fact I don't know of any shops near me that sell them. In fact I don't know of any shops near me!
Thanks again
John

[RafaelDaggers]

Its better to buy a book where you can find and study correct daggers (textbook) daggers.

1.Exploring the dress daggers and swords of the german ss by Thomas wittman

2.The service daggers of the ss by Ralf Siegert

These books can help you a lot but they are not easy to find.

Regards Rafael

[kreta1961]

Hi John.
You have to bear in mind that an SS dagger expertise is a very difficult task, very gedetaieerde pics needed to give us the right impression and sometimes this is even not enough and you will need to have the dagger in hands to assess him correctly. give us clear photo, s and we help you with pleasure
M7/5 belongs to Carl Julius Krebs, Solingen and its a SA Dagger code. This code is not found on SS daggers.

This code is also known with SS Daggers! But the dagger in question is wrong,eg. Motto,Trademark.....
You also find this strange TM in a dealers reference!
Here is a pic from a real,my, M 7/5.

Regards,
Gerd

[RafaelDaggers]

Hi Gerd

I know that you know a lot of SS daggers and I will believe you but I'm still not convinced. Do you have more pics from this dagger and where can I find information about this. It is interesting to discover new things and I love it

Regards Rafael

[kreta1961]

Hi Rafael,
based on my Knowledge,the 7/5 is not listed in Wittmanns book,but in Siegerts SS Book.

Here is a Fine example...
SS RZM Treo Not Shown In Wittys SS Book - Page 2 - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums

And here is the evidence,the booklet of the Krebs company.
Regards,
Gerd