I recommend checking with the Forum before entering a purchase, and not afterwards...
You've been given good advice here by collectors who know their field...the shell itself is real, the rest fake, the price is fair for a decent shell...
12-21-2013 09:40 PM
What veteran are you talking about , a veteran of what ? A veteran who has sold 80 helmets !!!
Everything about this helmet is fake apart from the actual steel itself , if you search around our forum you will find dozens of threads which feature both fake and real SS Helmets , the real ones costing thousands of euros so 100 euros for this thing is a bit of a give away !!
The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )
1st July 1916
Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader
House Carles at the Battle of Hastings
It's a real WW2 German helmet shell (but you still need to look for markings) that has been repainted recently, and had a fake liner stuck inside. That's about my limit of confusion busting skills, I hope it's enough.
Collecting of any item requires knowledge, therefore its important that you research as many good books , reference material, handle known original items, look at the amount of good helmets that have been posted in this forum, there are hundreds, some require very specialized knowledge, namely SS as these are the more costly of all helmets,and above all post pictures of any prospective purchase on here, you have been asked to look at specific areas in the helmets, please look and let us know what you find, it may be difficult now as these have been repainted, but you might be lucky
Look at the classified for sale section here for a helmet.
He says he is a veteran, that doesn't mean he is a veteran of some countries military even if he is a veteran that doesn't mean he is an honest veteran.
Bull$hit artists are every where friend. Take that helmet back to him and see if it will fit in his rectum or at least beat him with it. That way you will get some satisfaction out of the transaction.
Looks like a original shell hkp (Saxony maker) type vents on M-42 if so will be stamped in rear skirt nothing else original sorry to say that has not been said. timothy
So it is clear: Yes, the steel shell is from Second World War. The leather liner and chinstrap are not genuine. The shell has been recently painted and has had false insignia placed on it (and very poorly done, I might add.)
Many people will use the basic steel shell for display or for living history, by adding good quality replacement leather parts, and painting it in an authentic color and making it look like it did back then. These people will sometimes purchase good quality shells like yours and pay as much as 100E for them. 50 seems a good price for the shells that you have, so even though they are not as they were then, they are still a good purchase for you, and you could probably resell them for what you paid, or perhaps a bit more. Just be sure the new owners know that they have been altered.
As some people have said on here it can still look good as a display piece if you clean it up, good repo decals, paint etc.