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Winter ss helmet real or fake?

Article about: Hi everyone, I am a new collector and member of this forum and was wondering if I could an opinion if this helmet is authenic or not. I have included pictures with I hope will work. Any repl

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    Default Winter ss helmet real or fake?

    Hi everyone,

    I am a new collector and member of this forum and was wondering if I could an opinion if this helmet is authenic or not. I have included pictures with I hope will work. Any replies are greatly appreciated. If you need larder pictures I can email them to you.

    Thanks again,

    Gren
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    Default Re: Winter ss helmet real or fake?

    Hi Gren, welcome to the forum!

    Sadly, this is a fake helmet. The paintwork and decal are modern.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Default Re: Winter ss helmet real or fake?

    Hi Adrian,

    Thank you for your reply. I feared it was a fake.

    Thanks for your post.

    Gren

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    Default Re: Winter ss helmet real or fake?

    Hi, welcome to the forum; but this helmet is a real fake!!!!
    It has liner, rivets and leather completly remounted; decal is a copy and it's modern repainted!
    Save your money!!
    Cheers
    Relic59

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    Default Re: Winter ss helmet real or fake?

    Hi relic59,

    Thanks for your reply. Other than the paint work and decal the helmet shell is original?

    Thanks,

    Gren

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    relic59
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    Default Re: Winter ss helmet real or fake?

    Quote by gh82 View Post
    Hi relic59,

    Thanks for your reply. Other than the paint work and decal the helmet shell is original?

    Thanks,

    Gren
    Hallo Gren, from this pictures shell could be original !
    Cheers
    Relic59

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    Hi relic59,

    That least cushions the blow. Is it a decent reproduction/display piece?

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    Default Re: Winter ss helmet real or fake?

    That really depends on the cost of it and how much you want to spend , it's probably better to save your money for a good one but as we all know that will cost a lot of money.

    regards

    Paul
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Default Re: Winter ss helmet real or fake?

    When the helmet arrives I will post close up pics of the runes decal and the helmet itself. I am more inclined to believe it may be real given the story of how it was found and the items that were found with it. The gentlemen who sold to me, tells me that he and his father were cleaning away a new property that had just bought which included a barn. Inside the barn in between two walls the helmet, an wehrmacht winter parka, ss cap, bread bag, reichsmarks, and nsdap pin were found. I understand that whitewash does have a tendency to turn brown but I remember a "chimunk pattern" camouflage that did not turn brown.

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    Quote by gh82 View Post
    When the helmet arrives I will post close up pics of the runes decal and the helmet itself. I am more inclined to believe it may be real given the story of how it was found and the items that were found with it. The gentlemen who sold to me, tells me that he and his father were cleaning away a new property that had just bought which included a barn. Inside the barn in between two walls the helmet, an wehrmacht winter parka, ss cap, bread bag, reichsmarks, and nsdap pin were found. I understand that whitewash does have a tendency to turn brown but I remember a "chimunk pattern" camouflage that did not turn brown.
    There's an adage in collecting " buy the article not the story " , many have fakes have been bought on the back of an old barn story !!! This helmet shows no sign of having been stuck in an old barn between two walls for 65 years !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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