2nd Pattern Totenkopf SS Runes marked: thoughts?

**ToxicGas** · 11-02-2010, 06:54 PM

After comparing this with many examples of genuine Totenkopf badges on here, I find that the details don't seem to completely match up with any, though it's very difficult to tell sometimes with all the variations. I think this is probably another fake to add to list of 'almost bought', but I'd like to hear your thoughts on it first.
Supposedly it's a ground-dug piece from Poland, with no signs of maker's mark on the back.

-Mat

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 11-02-2010 06:54 PM

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**cris403** · 11-02-2010, 07:41 PM

IMO this item is fake.

**Adrian Stevenson** · 11-02-2010, 09:21 PM

Fake.

Note the diamond shaped "Makers mark" on the reverse. A fantasy marking and something never seen on an original.

Cheers, Ade.

**ToxicGas** · 11-02-2010, 09:24 PM

I didn't even notice that upon first inspection. Thanks Ade. I might post other examples in this thread soon, though I hold much hope on them either. By the way, is it true that no genuine Totenkopf badge ever had SS runes on the back?

Mat

**Adrian Stevenson** · 11-02-2010, 09:30 PM

Hi Mat, yes that is correct.

The diamond shaped fantasy mark was copied from a fake SS belt buckle made in the 1970's. The idiots who create this junk copied another fake!

Cheers, Ade.

**ToxicGas** · 11-02-2010, 09:39 PM

Then that eliminates another example before I even post it. As for the faker faking a fake... that's hilarious. You'd think they'd at least put time into research before faking such things.
Hopefully soon I'll post a piece and you can shock me by telling me it's real!

Mat

**Adrian Stevenson** · 11-02-2010, 09:44 PM

You can also find fake SS buttons with this marking. Some were shown on the forum last week. I agree, it is rather ironic!

Cheers, Ade.

**carlsson1982** · 11-02-2010, 11:49 PM

It's a old copy from the Original Overhoff skull.(M1/24) search for It and compare.

**ToxicGas** · 11-03-2010, 09:22 AM

I haven't heard of this maker before, thanks for the info, I've looked it up. I'm collecting two seperate folders of photos now: fake and original totenkopf examples.

Mat