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Controversial SS cap skull: 3 edge prong design

Article about: Hi Guys, now this is a controversial pattern of skull. Some people like these, while others do not. I bought this one some 30 years ago now. It is made of zinc with the usual worn away silve

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    Pictures as requested ..

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    Notice the exact same type folding prongs used on the small Panzer TK next to it ( and Assmann's WH eagles , etc. etc. ) - a fact pointed out before but chosen to be ignored by many ..
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ID:	920465Aha. And a matter of common sense, thank you very much. I recall these nice images.

    It stands to reason that the craftsman at Deschler or Assmann likely got called up to service at arms and was replaced by a semi skilled worker.

    The accounts of this in the height of the war years are legion.

    Thanks and happy new year!
    damit, basta.

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    hello

    what a great document!!!

    for no french speaking members the caption above the tk says

    zinc electro( abbreviation for" électrolytique") décapé = cleaned electrolytic zinc

    3 tiges découpées = 3 cut stalks


    french made skull ?????


    regards
    christophe

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    IMO not a French made TK , but wartime German .

    I would think that these sample boards of German Assmann products were set up for the benefit of tailors in occupied France .

    These skulls were at some point found together with wartime Assmann zinc eagle insignia , by whoever abused these sets putting them postwar on the fraudulent " Alteste " caps .
    Even when the eagles were never questioned , these 3-prong skulls have been doubted by many .

    When I first read that handwritten description " 3 tiges découpées " , indeed it was quite a revelation , and all the additional proof needed that this 3-prong TK was part of the original WW2 board and not a replacement ..

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    Quote by Winkelman View Post

    I would think that these sample boards of German Assmann products were set up for the benefit of tailors in occupied France .
    This should be correct.

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    it seems that those cards were originally made to display buttons only , each location has a a little slot to receive a button ring

    i have already seen this kind of boards coming from french buttons ( military, hunting...) makers to display their products

    regards
    christophe

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    Quote by bavf View Post
    it seems that those cards were originally made to display buttons only , each location has a a little slot to receive a button ring

    i have already seen this kind of boards coming from french buttons ( military, hunting...) makers to display their products

    regards
    christophe
    Yes , and how about the cheap " embroidery substitutes " in metal , taking up half of the pre-punctured board ? Were they actually ever used on WW2 Kriegsmarine visors ?
    Sofar I always assumed that these horrible items were a postwar GDR / USSR invention to cut costs ..

    ( the missing item 3.118 may have been a KM visors metal wreath & cockade , since the item was both gold- and silverplated , and would match the empty spot )
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    it could be interesting to compare the administrative kriegsmarine breast eagle to a well known french made one, and to see the reverse of some buttons
    regards
    christophe

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    Quote by Winkelman View Post
    Yes , and how about the cheap " embroidery substitutes " in metal , taking up half of the pre-punctured board ? Were they actually ever used on WW2 Kriegsmarine visors ?
    Sofar I always assumed that these horrible items were a postwar GDR / USSR invention to cut costs ..

    ( the missing item 3.118 may have been a KM visors metal wreath & cockade , since the item was both gold- and silverplated , and would match the empty spot )
    The metal visor emblems were most certainly used during wartime, though only rarely.
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