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danziger skull in arnhem

Article about: 1st pattern dazinger skull I think. adquired in arnhem museum several years ago , before "berlin hoard". fake or authentic item? is a model too old to have taken part in the operat

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    1st pattern dazinger skull I think.
    adquired in arnhem museum several years ago , before "berlin hoard".
    fake or authentic item?
    is a model too old to have taken part in the operation market garden?
    is more likely to be the invasion of 1940?
    Panzerwaffe or ss?
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    I honestly think this is from the Berlin Hoard too.

    These particular style saw limited use by the SS. It was intended as a Heer tradition cap badge. The early jawless skull pattern was rarely seen by 1944. Even in 1940 it was not often seen.

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    Im not sure about orginality of those type of skulls

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    damit, basta.

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    hi friederich-berthold ,would be so kind to show the skull from behind I would like to see if it was common edge the sprongs in this type of skulls? thanks.

    also I have asked carlsson1982 if can hang the complete Soldier Photo right ad containing this type of skull,for to place it in a time.
    are here Very rare Danziger skull in aluminium - Militaria Collectibles buy - sell at War Relics

    thanks all for your comments.

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ID:	585125I think my badge looks like this, but I do not disassemble my objects.
    damit, basta.

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ID:	585125I think my badge looks like this, but I do not disassemble my objects.

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    damit, basta.

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    It is buntmetall, much of brass, and plated in the normal manner for these things.
    damit, basta.

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ID:	585131I collect the badges on the hats, ideally with the latter having been there for some decades....
    damit, basta.

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    many thanks friederich-berthold.
    in the picture below taken from (A Collector's Guild) I see exactly the skull I own , the sizes are exactly those 25mm tall by 35mm wide.
    the second picture taken from (Familienverband derer v. Kleist e.V.) confirms the use of this skull in this regiment.
    as I have seen the 5th cavalry regiment only participated in the Russian front ,not know how it got to arnhem this skull.
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    Last edited by another ant; 10-22-2013 at 06:39 AM.

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