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    Helo. Can You help me if it's fake or original?
    eagle cap ss original or fake?

    on the last picture i can see eagles with look like mine
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    fake

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    can You tell my why fake?eagle cap ss original or fake?

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    wrong maker, design etc

    take a look at this thread first:

    SS cap eagles and skulls

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    Hi, sorry the heads not right either.

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    this eagle have left wing RZM and right wing number 40, i found rzm maker

    RZM M1
    Metallabzeichen
    Odznaky

    M1/1
    Meyer & Franke
    Luckenwalde

    M1/2
    Richard Conrad
    Weimar

    M1/3
    Max Kremhelmer
    München

    M1/4
    Karl Gutenkunst
    Oranienburg

    M1/5
    Walter Simon
    Dresden

    M1/6
    Karl Flensler
    Pforzheim

    M1/7
    Herman Schanzun
    Pforzheim

    M1/8
    Ferdinand Wagner
    Pforzheim.

    M1/9
    Robert Hauschild
    Pforzheim

    M1/10
    Robert Schenkel
    Pforzheim

    M1/11
    C. Baimberger
    Nürnberg

    M1/12
    Gebrüder Hahne
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/13
    L. Christian Lauer
    Nürmberg

    M1/14
    Matth. Oescbsler & Sohn
    Ansbach

    M1/15
    Ferdinand Hoffstätter
    Bonn am Rhein

    M1/16
    Dr. Franke & Co. K.G.
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/17
    E W. Assmann & Sohne
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/18
    Gold-und Silber-Scheide-Anstalt
    Oberstein a. d. N.

    M1/20
    Gustav Emil Ficker
    Bejerfeld

    M1/21
    Paul Meybauer
    Berlin-Waidmannslust

    M1/22
    Johann Dittrich
    Chemnitz

    M1/23
    Wilhelm Borgas
    Eutingen

    M1/24
    Overhoff & Cie.
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/25
    Rudolf Reiling
    Pforzbeim

    M1/27
    E. L. Muller
    Pforzheim

    M1/28
    Gebrüder Trautz
    Pforzheim-Dillweissenstein

    M1/29
    Otto Riedel
    Zwickau

    M1/30
    Robert Metzger G.m.b.H
    Pforzbeim

    M1/31
    Karl Pfohl
    Pforzheim

    M1/32
    Gustav Ramminger (Inh. Hans Kuhnle)
    Pforzheim

    M1/34
    Karl Wurster
    Markneukirchen

    M1/35
    Wachtler & Lange
    Mittweida

    M1/36
    Berg & Nolte AG
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/37
    Julius Bauer Sohn
    ZeIla-Mehlis

    M1/38
    Carl Wächtler
    Weimar

    M1/39
    Robert Beck
    Pforzheim

    M1/40
    C. Meinel & W. Scholer
    Klingenthal

    M1/41
    H.A. Kohlers Sohn G.m.b.H.
    Altenburg

    M1/42
    Kerbach & Israel
    Dresden

    M1/43
    Julius Maurer G.m.b.H.
    Oberstein a. d. N.

    M1/44
    C. Dinsel
    Berlin-Waidmannslust

    M1/45
    Friedrich Linden
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/46
    Alfred Stubbe
    Berlin

    M1/47
    Christian Theodore Dicke
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/48
    Alexander Wollram
    Dessau

    M1/49
    Adolf Baumeister
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/50
    Richard Sieper & Sohn
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/51
    Noelle & Hueck G.m.b.H.
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/52
    Deschler & Sohn
    München

    M1/54
    Pa. A. Fries, Beuster & Schild
    Berlin-Hohenschönhausen

    M1/55
    August Enders AG
    Oberrabmede

    M1/56
    Erfurter Knopffabrik G.m.b.H.
    Erfurt

    M1/57
    M. Winter
    München

    M1/58
    M. Kutsch
    Attendorn

    M1/59
    Paul Cramer
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/60
    Gebrüder Cosack
    Neheim

    M1/61
    Ossenberg-Engels
    Iserlohn

    M1/62
    Gustav Hähl
    Pforzheim

    M1/63
    Steinhauer & Lück
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/64
    Albert Winges
    Trusen

    M1/65
    E. F Wiedmann
    Frankfurt am M.

    M1/66
    Fritz Kohm
    Pforzheim

    M1/67
    Karl Schenker
    Schwäb-Gmünd.

    M1/68
    Gustav Maier
    Pforzheim

    M1/70
    Franz Otto
    Wuppertal-Elberfeld

    M1/71
    Gesell & Co.
    Pforzheim

    M1/72
    Fritz Zimmermann
    Stuttgart

    M1/73
    Karl Erbacher
    Pforzheim

    M1/74
    Boerger & Co.
    Berlin

    M1/75
    Otto Schickle
    Pforzheim

    M1/76
    Hillenbrand & Bröer
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/77
    Foerster & Barth
    Pforzheim

    M1/78
    Paulmann & Crone
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/79
    Walter Amlauf
    Leipzig

    M1/80
    R. Durr & Fr Seiter
    Pforzheim

    M1/81
    Rutting & Mertz
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/82
    Leistner & Co.
    Leipzig

    M1/83
    Willy Annetsberger
    München

    M1/84
    Ernst Schneider
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/85
    Alois Rettenmaier
    Schwäb-Gmünd.

    M1/86
    Ernst Conze
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/87
    Karoline Gahr
    München

    M1/88
    Josef Schulte-Ufer
    Sundern

    M1/89
    Gustav Bühnert
    Dobeln

    M1/90
    Apreck & Vrage
    Leipzig

    M1/92
    Karl Wild
    Hamburg

    M1/93
    Gotllieb Friedrick Keck & Sohn
    Pforzheim

    M1/94
    Friedrich Keck
    Pforzheim

    M1/95
    Josef Fuess
    München

    M1/96
    F O. Naupert
    Rosswein

    M1/97
    M. Nett, Gravier-und Prägeanstalt
    Fürth

    M1/98
    G. Danner
    Muhlhausen

    M1/99
    Peter Wilhelm Heb
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/100
    Werner Redo
    Saarlautern

    M1/101
    Gustav Brehmer
    Markneukirchen

    M1/102
    Frank & Reif
    Stuttgart

    M1/103
    Carl Poellath
    Schrobenhausen

    M1/104
    Otto Fechler
    Bernsbach

    M1/105
    Hermann Aurich
    Dresden

    M1/106
    Funcke & Brüninghaus
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/107
    Emil Juttner
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/108
    Schroder & Co.
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/109
    Glaser & Sohn
    Dresden

    M1/110
    Tweer & Turck
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/111
    Gebrüder Gloerfeld Metallwarenfabrik KG
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/112
    Robert Deitenbeck
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/113
    Gebrüder Dombach
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/114
    Paul Cramer & Co.
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/115
    E. Schmidhaussler
    Pforzheim

    M1/116
    Hermann Wernstein
    Jena-Lobstedt

    M1/117
    K. F. Vogelsang & Co.
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/118
    Erich Gutenkunst
    Berlin.

    M1/119
    Georg Bonitz
    Schwarzenberg

    M1/120
    Wilhelm Deumer
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/121
    Walter Demmer
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/122
    I. Deutschbein G.m.b.H.
    Euskirchen

    M1/124
    Gebrüder Lange
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/125
    Cramer & Dombach
    Lüdenscheid

    M1/126
    Karl Fr. Schenkel
    Pforzheim

    M1/127
    Alfred Stübbe, Inh. Herbert Tegge
    Berlin-Waidmannslust

    M1/128
    Eugen Schmidhäussler
    Pforzheim

    M1/129
    Seiler & Comp.
    Geldem

    M1/130
    Grossmann & Co., Inh.
    Lorenz Hoffstätter & L. Siefener
    Wien

    M1/136
    Matth Salcher & Sohn
    Wagstadt

    M1/137
    Richard Simm & Sohn
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/138
    Matth Oechsler & Sohn AG
    Riegersdorf/Bodenbach

    M1/139
    Rudolf Richter
    Schlag Nr. 244

    M1/140
    Bruno Czerch
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/141
    Josef Felix Sohn
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/142
    Josef Hillebrand
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/143
    Gebrüder Jäger.
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/146
    Anton Schenkis Nachf.
    Wien

    M1/147
    Eduard Gösel
    Wien

    M1/148
    Heinrich Ulbrichts Witwe
    Wien

    M1/149
    Lentwerk Brüder Schneider AG.
    Wien

    M1/150
    Franke & Sohn
    Heidenreichstein

    M1/151
    Rudolf Schanes
    Wien

    M1/152
    Franz Jungwirth
    Wien

    M1/153
    Friedrich Orth
    Wien

    M1/155
    Schwertner & Cie.
    Eggenberg b. Graz

    M1/156
    Argentor-Werke
    Wien

    M1/157
    Phil. Turks Witwe
    Wien

    M1/158
    Karl Pichl
    Innsbruck

    M1/159
    Hans Doppler
    Wels

    M1/160
    E. Reihl
    Linz

    M1/161
    Anton Markovskys Sohn
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/162
    Konrad Seiboth
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/163
    Franz Schmidt
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/164
    Aug. G. Tham
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/165
    Rudolf Tham
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/166
    Camill Bergmann & Co
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/167
    Augustin Hicke
    Tyssa b. Bodenbach

    M1/168
    Wilhelm Fühner
    Pforzheim

    M1/169
    Paul Garthe
    Milpe

    M1/170
    B. H. Mayers Hotkunstprägeanstalt
    Pforzheim

    M1/172
    Walter & Henlein
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/173
    Adam Donner
    Wuppertal-Elberfcld

    M1/174
    Petz & Lorenz
    Unterreichenbach

    M1/175
    "Walgo" Kom-Ges.
    Kierspe

    M1/176
    Heinrich Vogt
    Pforzheim

    M1/177
    Franz Klamt & Sohn
    Gablonz am N.

    M1/178
    Gustav Kortel
    Peterswald b. Bodenbach

    M1/180
    Metallwarenfabrik S. Jablonski G.m.b.H.
    Posen

    M1/181
    Wilhelm Müller
    Posen

    M1/182
    C. E. Junker
    Berlin

    M1/183
    Schmahl & Schulz
    Wuppertal-Barmen.

    M1/184
    W. Aurich
    Leipe

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    RZM M2

    Hilfsbetriebe
    Subdodavatelé

    M2/139
    Gerog Wetzel

    M2/168
    Fritz Balke

    M2/169
    Gebrüder Tueckmantel

    M2/170
    E. Steineshoff & Sohne

    M2/171
    Gottfried Reuter

    M2/172
    Gebrüder Knoth

    M2/173
    Karl Peters, Jr.

    M2/174
    Wilhelm Otto

    M2/175
    Willy Goeddertz

    M2/176
    Rudy u. Karl Kraus

    M2/177
    Luettgens & Engels

    M2/178
    Oskar Jenish

    M2/179
    Peter Prass

    M2/180
    Karl Muller

    M2/181
    Bremshey & Co.

    M2/182
    Robert Hartmann

    M2/183
    Julius Kirschner & Sohn

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    RZM M3

    Symbole
    Symboly a emblémy

    M3/74
    A. Kunze & Co

    M3/75
    Fritz Balke

    M3/76
    Kunstpragerei Preuss

    M3/77
    G. Danner

    M3/80
    Ch. Frank & Sohne KG

    M3/81
    Heene E u E

    M3/82
    E. Gruber & Co

    M3/83
    Stanislaus Mrkwicka

    M3/84
    E. Gyorffy & Co

    M3/85
    Emaillierwerk u. Metallwarenfabrik AG

    M3/86
    Rudolf Menschiga

    M3/87

    I find in the internet similar eagle
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    are you sure that this is fake? I saw the same eagles sold as the original, with the same markings

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    If Carlsson reckons it's a fake i'd take take his word for it!...
    It's a wasted trip baby. Nobody said nothing about locking horns with no Tigers.



    I'm Spartacus, not really i'm Paul!...

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    Quote by Gunny Hartmann View Post
    If Carlsson reckons it's a fake i'd take take his word for it!...
    Indeed
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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