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Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)

Article about: Hey guys. I found a Zimmerman 499/41 skull up for sale, and I'd like to see what you guys think... Here's the skull in question (I have circled the major problem areas that concern me): The

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    Hey guys. I found a Zimmerman 499/41 skull up for sale, and I'd like to see what you guys think... Here's the skull in question (I have circled the major problem areas that concern me):

    Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)

    Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)
    The little globule/bump on the left is strange, and I've never seen it in any other Zimmerman photo (real or fake). The same goes for the large lump between the two bones on the right...

    Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)
    The problem for me is that there are things I definitely want to like about this skull, such as the characteristic suture mark on the right "eyebrow," the clear detail on the backside, the appropriate maker's mark, and the proper prong attachment points. However, the previously mentioned spots worry me. I did notice "extra" bits of metal on a zinc Zimmerman in another thread, and no one called it out as a fake:

    Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)

    So, what's the verdict? Is this a fake, or is it simply a "unique" cupal Zimmerman?
    Last edited by daveward; 02-07-2015 at 08:16 PM.

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    The item is authentic.
    damit, basta.

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    Thanks, FB! I'm interested to hear what the others have to say about it... I think Zimmerman is beginning to replace the Deschler M1/52 as my favorite skull!

    By the way, if this is original, what is the explanation for these strange "extra" bumps?

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    Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)Compare:
    damit, basta.

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    I see a little speck of something between the two bones on the right in your picture, but nothing like the large lump in the picture I posted... I'm curious as to what might cause this during manufacturing...

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    Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)Notice this image.
    damit, basta.

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    Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)Notice this image
    damit, basta.

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    In post # 7 the badge has a flaw, like a tear, which I never noticed in real life, even with a lupe, until I made the image. The cap is authentic, it came with a black SS uniform for an SD officer. The badges are authentic
    and integral to the cap.

    My point: these badges vary in reality, and the variations are amplified by the pictures.

    Sometimes there are features that do truly bespeak a fake.

    Other times there are variations that are meaningless.
    damit, basta.

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    forget another little globule / bump in the jaw
    Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)

    and the strange and rough appearance of the rear composition
    Interesting Zimmerman Skull (499/41)

    these doubts, which I did stay in a 70/30 and I not pushed the buy button.
    at that price, better to have a 99%

    It is just my opinión of "savants scull"

    the seller is an authentic profesional so we take it for Original (a magnificent missed opportunity )

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    Quote by daveward View Post
    I see a little speck of something between the two bones on the right in your picture, but nothing like the large lump in the picture I posted... I'm curious as to what might cause this during manufacturing...
    what you are seeing on the right is actually a die flaw that progressed as these were being produced. This was explained to me here:

    MINTY aluminum RZM 499/41 Zimmerman skull - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums

    William Kramer
    Us and them - and after all we’re only ordinary men. Me, and you - God only knows it’s not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side.

    - US & THEM, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD

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