Skull and eagle ss original?

[FABIE]

Hello,
What do you thing of these badges?
Skull: M 1/52
Eagle: M 1/72

Thank you in advance.
Regards

[CBH]

Not liking the TK, weak detail on face.

[Aldo]

I believe they are both fake castings based on the attachment pins and mold residue bumps but please wait for more opinions. I corrected the photo's for you and included a few pictures of what an m1 52 Deschler looks like front and back.....





CREDIT: JOHN TELESMANICH

[Aldo]

But perhaps I'm wrong about the attachments based on this thread by Migobeego

Transitional Totenkopf Deschler M1/52



Here are few of my M1 52's for more visual comparison......

[bsiwula1]

I wouldn't second guess yourself Al. I think yours and Chris s observations are spot on. The varying edge thickness, excess material seen around the edge (above the Adler's head especially) and overall weak detail, would be a no on both for me as well. Better than average fakes, but still both bad imo. Kindest regards.

Brian

Comparison images from Sid taken from an earlier thread

[rbminis]

There were versions that did not have the round disc attachments for the pins.
Ralph.

[Aldo]

I wouldn't second guess yourself Al. I think yours and Chris s observations are spot on. The varying edge thickness, excess material seen around the edge (above the Adler's head especially) and overall weak detail, would be a no on both for me as well. Better than average fakes, but still both bad imo. Kindest regards.

Brian

Comparison images from Sid taken from an earlier thread

Thanks Brian, although I'm not too good on the eagles, the thick material on the edges and the fixed prongs soldered onto the wings were bad signs.

[Aldo]

There were versions that did not have the round disc attachments for the pins.
Ralph.

Hi Ralph, I know the round disc attachment were exclusive to the M1 52 and the lack of discs usually associated with earlier versions marked 52 but i forgot that there were transitional M1 52's without discs like in Migobeego's thread. Here is a photo of all my Deschler's with varying attachment points.

Al

[FABIE]

Thank you all for you knowledge

Im handing over a picture of the skull for more details.
It's true that the photo is very important for an analysis.
Kind regards.

[Aldo]

Yes a clear image is very important. There are far more knowledgeable collectors who will give you a definitive answer shortly and you will know for sure......