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    [QUOTE=Friedrich-Berthold;239991] The past is a riddle. I wish I could answer all my own questions, but if the answers we offer here to our readers across the globe have merit, then best of luck to all of you in your struggle with the riddles and enigmas of foetid old clothes from mass murderers. [QUOTE=Friedrich-Berthold;239991]

    For me, your riddles of the past present an enjoyable challenge . . . Thank you. My struggle of riddle that surrounds mass murderers forever seems to be compounding . . . here are some additional photos for your archives, captured during my previous attempt to solve one of these very riddles of which you speak.
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    Thank you. I did not make it to Gusen, but I did see Mauthausen, surely, which shook me quite a bit. A friend of mine from Linz will be in town this week end. His late, dear mother grew up in Mauthausen, and was forced to leave because she remained a highly Catholic young woman and resisted the advances of the SS garrison. She described to me the conditions in which prisoners were shot in public, as well as unloaded at night with orders for all to remain in doors....pretty horrifying stuff that well accords with all the Bundesarchiv pictures of the place and its happy owners. As I wrote elsewhere, one of prisoners photographers had his image published in a volume published in Austria. Modern Austrian history has its fairly staggering moments, in which the Julie Andrews and Christopher Plummer thing does not do the record any justice.

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    Very interesting story FB . . . thank you. I myself recall a tale of two guards, along with two prisoners, leading another prisoner, guilty of some petty "offense", outside of the Mauthausen gates one evening. The prisoner that committed the untold "offense", must have thought he was being let off easy when his fellow prisoners were ordered to push him to the ground, stretch out his limbs, and then tie his limbs to four individual wooden posts - "spread-eagle", so to speak. Much to all three prisoners relief, no beating had taken place, as so often would have in similar situations. Instead, the two guards ordered both prisoners back inside, leaving the third prisoner tied up outside the gates. The two prisoners that were returned, must have been baffled - why would they leave this third prisoner tied up outside all night? Not long after nightfall, they had an answer - the screams only lasted so long. In the middle of the night, the guards at the camp had unlocked the gates to the Russsian prisoners compound. The Russian prisoners at Mauthausen were left to starve, never being fed . . . in the middle of the night, after discovering the gate had been unlocked, they made their way through the darkness, and consumed the only thing offered for satisfying the pains of hunger. Some of the surviving Russian prisoners from Mautahsuen have talked about this in previous interviews . . . even mentioning killing one another in this situation, for the one item prized more over than any other - the liver. While in Gusen, we were told this tale by an informal acquaintant . . . but I don't believe the story to be fictitious, as the storyteller carried great credentials - he was a former Russian POW that had survived captivity at Mauthausen.

    You are correct - the Julie Andrews and Christopher Plummer thing does not do the record any justice . . . at least for one particular chapter of the Austrian story. But as you know, Austria has such a vast and magnificent history, that a truly definitive book written on it's past would only leave this chapter so greatly overshadowed, and so easily overlooked. While in Austria (especially Mauthausen/Gusen/St. Georgen), we have met so many wonderful people, and seen so many maginificent places. I truly do enjoy Austrians. It was quite a treat to simply get off the beaten path, and meet so many of the local people, carrying on with their ordinary everyday tasks. I could not believe all of the stories they would tell - especially once they realized we had such a vast and genuine interest in their own personal past. We have so many photos, so many recorded interviews, and some of the best memories from anywhere in Europe right out of Austria - and have made many dear friends that we enjoy returning to visit as often as we can afford. I encourage anyone to take the time and visit Austria some day - especially the region of Mauthausen/Gusen/St. Georgen. Not only for the history, but for the wonderful people, and beautiful town(s) themselves . . .

    During your visit, please say "hello" from the US to your friend from Linz, FB . . . tell him we are familiar of the roadside executions . . . in Mauthausen, there are still many markers commemorating these memories - but some can only found if you look much closer. How so exciting is history . . . I will be looking forward to viewing all of your future contributions here . . .
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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    Modern Austrian history has its fairly staggering moments, in which the Julie Andrews and Christopher Plummer thing does not do the record any justice.
    I watched the Sound of Music from start to finish recently which was a struggle!. Prehaps I was just in a strange mood that evening but there is an astute understanding of the period and current of underlining menace in that film. The Baroness who is oblivious to the clouds on the horizon and thinks that her status raises her above it all. The militarian Captain who treats his children like little soldiers. The Uncle Max character who charms and tries to associate himself with people of statue. Take out all the kitch songs and Julie Andrews and you might have an interesting movie. Plummer is excellent in any case, always has been.

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    My point had more to do with the history of the Austrian state from about 1926 until 1938, which was one of political dislocation, civil war, class war, terrorism, and imperialism. It is a particular professional interest of mine.

    Thanks to my colleague for the sites and personalities of Upper Austria. It is an interesting and compelling place, and thanks, also for the memorials to those murdered and victimized.

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    I can make bibliographical citations on inter war Austrian history, but I am disinclined to do so today. The whole of Austrian, i.e, Habsburg history, is magnificent and wonderful. The end of the monarchy formed the conditions for national socialism and especially racial mass murder in central and eastern Europe, along with the end of the Romanov and Ottoman empires. We still live with the consequences.
    The Austrian SS was also particularly vicious because of the experience of the late 1920 and early 1930s, a viciousness and violence that found its word in stone in Mauthausen and Gusen and the like. Mauthausen I found far more unsettling than Dachau, and I have not made it to Sachsenhausen in Oranienburg, yet, though I shall try to do so soon.

    sapere aude, dear readers, and may Mr. Butch Good Gooch suffocate on Ben's nice plessier lining of his dumbo Luftwaffe cap. I am growing very tired of this particular kind of internet collector and his abuse of humankind. Plessier is a big deal, and not to be cast off lightly in the good ole' boy, rebel yell kind of way that appears to be operating in this repugnant case.black SS officer's capblack SS officer's capblack SS officer's capblack SS officer's capblack SS officer's capblack SS officer's cap

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    Some pictorial aspects of the story from 1926/7 until 1938 of the 1st Republic and the Staendestaat, ca. 1934-38black SS officer's capblack SS officer's capblack SS officer's capblack SS officer's capblack SS officer's cap

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    The July 1927 blaze at the Palace of Justice in Vienna was a sort of 11 September 2001 event in the downward trajectory of the 1st Republic. When I was a college student in the early 1970s, I worked around the corner from this place in Vienna, and my teacher in contemporary Austrian history (apropos why March 1938 and the like) made very clear to me the politics of left and right in the 1st Republic as a continuation or amplification of the things that young Adolf saw in more or less the same neighborhood prior to 1914.

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    Austria has always been a puzzle to me. I would wager that most British just associate it with skiing and mountains. I know that's about all I was taught at school. Recent interest in the Great War has opened my eyes to a complex relationship between the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Germany, the destruction of Serbia and the flight of it's army and most of the poplulation through Albania to end up in Corfu. Millions of them died along the way. Despite the fact that Germany sided with Austro-Hungary, the alliance was liked to being "shackled to a corpse". I'm just surmising but prehaps that underlying feeling fuelled the Anschluss 20 years later? In other words, our cousins and neighbours were nothing but a shackle so this time, let's remove them from the equation.

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    [QUOTE=Friedrich-Berthold;240707]I can make bibliographical citations on inter war Austrian history, but I am disinclined to do so today. The whole of Austrian, i.e, Habsburg history, is magnificent and wonderful. The end of the monarchy formed the conditions for national socialism and especially racial mass murder in central and eastern Europe, along with the end of the Romanov and Ottoman empires. We still live with the consequences. [QUOTE]

    Oh, but please do, FB - this is a part of history so important to what we all come here to enjoy. Austrian/Hapsburg history is so very interesting, and without an understanding for this, one could never begin to comprehend the reasoning behind what followed . . . I ascertain that you desire to reveal more, but that you fear there is no one that would apprecaite what you have to say . . . fear not - that is not true!

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