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Black SS tunic from elsehwere, dated 1936

Article about: From elsewhere come these images of a real tunic that has dorked up insignia and collar piping, but is real. It is interesting because it has the VA stamp, the VA SS contract tag and the RZM

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    damit, basta.

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ID:	623984......sollen und sein, madness and mouldering heaps, and then debtor's prison. That's how it goes.
    damit, basta.

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ID:	623984......sollen und sein, madness and mouldering heaps, and then debtor's prison. That's how it goes.
    Well said.

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ID:	624321The contractor who made the first enclosure also, apparently, made this LAH tunic....
    damit, basta.

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    My purpose in this comparison is not to fashion a list of makers, which I think is a huge waste of time. Rather, I want to contrast the VA SS contract number with the RZM license number, which, in some cases (not here) was identical. Here it did contrast, plainly; that is, the RZM gave a license number under D1 or whatever and the VA another, i.e. '124"

    All these little pieces add up, and one of my hobby horses is the evolution of the tags in the space of a few, short years in which this regalia emerged, i.e. in the rapid build up of the SS in the years more or less from 1934 until the outbreak of the war.
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    damit, basta.

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    I like such a early tunics, also the stamp showing non standard European size 48, 50, 52, but a waist size 102 1/2
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    No, 102 and 1/2 is a slim, tall size. The sizes were a.) the normal sizes, and b.) the slim, tall sizes. It is in the RZM specifications.
    One has normal sizes; slim, tall; and short and c.) dumpy sizes. I fit in the latter.

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    damit, basta.

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    Viz:

    Herren Spezial-Größen (schlanke Größen)
    Konfektionsgröße Körpergröße Brustumfang Taille
    90 175-179 88-91 74-77
    94 180-184 91-94 78-81
    98 182-186 95-98 82-85
    102 184-188 99-102 86-89
    106 187-191 103-106 90-94
    110 190-194 107-110 95-99

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    damit, basta.

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    FB, happy new year to you, the one thing I have always found interesting about the foetid woolens, is that in to a greater extent they are more or less identical to the old police uniforms we used to wear, apart from the french cuffs, but in the headquarters museum there are examples with the same type of cuffs, worn in the 50s- 60s, they were made in heavy wool with the same type of sleeve linings, its always been a talking point as to whether they were copied in order to look officious, and there were accounts of many people who used to nickname us as either Stormtroopers or Gestapo

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    Dear Colleague, thanks and a happy new year to you, in turn. I am a total ignoramus when it comes to UK police uniforms. Have not even set foot on British soil since 1982....!! I thought they were blue, where they not? In any case, the SS uniform of the epoch was based on the British first world war tunic, as is well know, so maybe it is a closed circle. That is, the SA and SS uniform with the open collar and the patch pockets was more British than Prussian German when it appeared in the early 1930s. 'This point is Mollo's actually. There were many U.S. influences on the Reichswehr uniform, too. International military fashion is that way, and has more or less been thus for centuries, and remains thus today. With NATO enlargement, the atomic green US Army uniform was adopted by former Warsaw Pact armies and others, only for the U.S. Army to make the dress blues a kind of garrison uniform again, and so forth.
    damit, basta.

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