apropos this image.
David Delich writes....." #2 has genuine silver thread, first of all, as did a goodly
number of the very early standartes. The configuration of
the numeral is a very early style. Borders are green
for Sutrmbann I
The next two are for Transportation units, as you well
know. Lt. Blue borders for Sturmbann II; green borders
for Sturmbann I.
The #15 has white borders and white numeral. I don't
recall what the white borders were for, unless it was just
a generic reference.
Note that in all examples, the black band is manufactured
in a very tight weave -- much more so than later specimens.
Also, on the green and blue bordered bands, the colored
thread is somewhat fuzzy and indistinct under magnification,
and can vary between five strands in a column to nine.
The white-bordered band seems easier to count the strands,
but under enlargement, can be equally difficult."
FB thinks that, the white borders were for enlisted ranks of the staff of the 15th Standarte, since did there exist 15 Stuerme in a Standarte...????, but I could be wrong.
Someone else can offer an sound answer.
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as concerns this image, David Delich writes... "....#9 band is bordered in red for 3rd Sturmbann. The
numeral is yellowed white.
#N9 band has faded yellow borders. I assumed yellow
due to the "N" prefix to the 9, which I took to suggest a
Nachrichten company. The unusual chain-stitched letters
and numerals are yellowed white. Numerals are standard
#10 band has red borders for 3rd Sturmbann. Numerals
are a slightly yellowed white, and are slightly in variance to
the standard numerls, in that these have "feet".
The basic black bands seem to be of the same manufacture,
with the weave slightly looser...."
".....The #1 has light blue borders for 4th Sturmbann.
Numeral is white.
The #2 has red borders for 3rd Sturmbann. Numeral
The #9 has dark blue borders for 2nd Sturmbann.
The numeral is yellowed white
Of note is, again, the difference in the clarity of
the thread utilized in the borders. Some columns are
more indistinct than others. The colors of the borders
in the #1 and #5 are identical, but the columns are
slightly longer and narrower in the #1. Both #1 and
#5 are of an earlier style and configuration than later
versions. The basic bands again display a very tight
weave. The number of strands in the borders again
vary, with the number being easier to determine in
the red band, but, as the others, can range from five
Items of this type are a special interest of mine.
David Delich reminds us that:
"......The major thing to recall in this study is that
there doesn't have to be any consistency in
manufacture for ALL cuff titles. There were
many manufacturers just like there were for
medals, etc. -- variants will exist. There were
major differences in BeVo cuff titles as well....."
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Many thanks, as always, to FB and David Delich for bringing this excellent material here.
Hi, Many thanks to FB, and DD. Where else is one going to see, in turn learn about such beautiful, fine, and rare pieces? Thanks again.
is an inspiration to me, and has been for many decades in fact. He and I are history teachers quite aside from this place, and it is a profession that unites us.
This arcane aspect always interested me, since in the original editions of Mollo, he failed to mention that these colored bordered cuff titles were phased out in mid 1937 or so.
A lost, tiny fact which affected me, all the same, because I could not understand the real uniforms I found with the later model of cuff title, i.e. with the alu
borders and alu numerals for all ranks.....
there you are....
thanks to Mr. d' Alquen for the RZM announcement.
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