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Deutschland Pre War HBT Tunic

Article about: The VT tunic of an Obersturmfuhrer of the Aufklarungs Abteteilung, Deutschland. Except for the sleeve eagle, the insignia has been modified to conform with the December, 1939, orders deletin

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    Bob,

    That is a great tunic and the insignia are fantastic. So, please do not misinterpret this question as sniping. However, isn't a machine-embroidered runic tab from a later period than the tunic? Granted, it could easily be a late-war replacement or a substitution resulting from advancement of an enlisted soldier to the officer ranks, but, if you were looking to illustrate a 100% pre-war tunic, wouldn't a hand-embroidered runic tab be more appropriate?

    Brad

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    Quote by bwanek1 View Post
    Bob,

    That is a great tunic and the insignia are fantastic. So, please do not misinterpret this question as sniping. However, isn't a machine-embroidered runic tab from a later period than the tunic? Granted, it could easily be a late-war replacement or a substitution resulting from advancement of an enlisted soldier to the officer ranks, but, if you were looking to illustrate a 100% pre-war tunic, wouldn't a hand-embroidered runic tab be more appropriate?

    Brad
    As none of us were present when the insignia was updated to the December 1940 regulations, any answer must be only conjecture. As this is a field or work tunic, the owner may have opted to wear a less expensive insignia due to the wear out factor. When the human element becomes involved, who knows?
    BOB

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    Quote by BOB COLEMAN View Post
    As none of us were present when the insignia was updated to the December 1940 regulations, any answer must be only conjecture. As this is a field or work tunic, the owner may have opted to wear a less expensive insignia due to the wear out factor. When the human element becomes involved, who knows?
    Well said. To quote Rumsfeld quoting Herman Kahn: "the unknown unknowns" are powerful here. What that we could actually see a group of Waffen SS men and such in September 1940 and then in January 1941 to examine the change, if any worked by such regulations. I imagine we would be more than surprised at how much received wisdom would evaporate in the shock.

    Bob is right to highlight the factor of thrift in all of this.

    It is an impressive uniform.
    damit, basta.

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