Early SS cap with leather visor

**eisenschwein35** · 12-02-2015, 06:20 PM

Hello all,

this early pre rzm cap with leather visor is offered to me at the moment. It looks promising, but I didn't find anything about the maker N&Z Erstklassig. What are your thougts? Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards
Stefan

Regards

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 12-02-2015 06:20 PM

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**texasuberalles** · 12-03-2015, 02:34 AM

Let FB weigh in but none of the cap shows patina to be expected either on the leather sweatband, interior or insignia.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 12-03-2015, 03:01 AM

by texasuberalles

Let FB weigh in but none of the cap shows patina to be expected either on the leather sweatband, interior or insignia.

Thanks to my friend in Texas. This cap appeared in Scandinavia and went to a leading collector in Canada. Or a cap identical to it.

The cap had the early and the later set of badges when it first appeared.

It is 100% real and well preserved. If my colleague in Germany does not want it, I'd take it happily.

Shea had one similar to it.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 12-03-2015, 03:02 AM

It is not a pre RZM cap. It is a cap for which the RZM marking requirement or the RFSS standardization requirement did not exist.
Or, the cap was made despite the RFSS requirement, which was ca. mid 1934.
The issue is rather complicated, as we have examined in hundreds of arcane threads.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 12-03-2015, 03:04 AM

I have several early caps with this colored sweat band and the same black cotton lining.

The maker's mark is also typical of the 1932-3-4 epoch.....

**texasuberalles** · 12-03-2015, 03:15 AM

If FB gives it the thumbs up then that's good enough for me.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 12-03-2015, 04:13 AM

by texasuberalles

If FB gives it the thumbs up then that's good enough for me.

Once more, my salute to Texas and my thanks to a fine, fine colleague.

This cap appeared some years ago. I kept images of it, but my new computer has jumbled my picture files.

I wish my Texan friends a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Some of these very early caps survive in fine preservation.

**eisenschwein35** · 12-03-2015, 07:36 AM

Thanks to my fine colleagues, especially FB, for their help and very valuable additional information. I was looking for some time for a real and nice early cap. I'm pleased and happy to be part in such a fruitfull forum.

Regards

Stefan