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Help please. Pz SS leather jacket & pants

Article about: Hi, Last week I found this black leather uniform. On internet photos, the comment was: KM. leather uniforms picked up by the 1SS.LAH in Italy in 1943. The jacket doesn't look like mine. The

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    Default Help please. Pz SS leather jacket & pants

    Hi,

    Last week I found this black leather uniform.
    On internet photos, the comment was:

    KM. leather uniforms picked up by the 1SS.LAH in Italy in 1943.

    The jacket doesn't look like mine.

    The jacket & the pants have the same "color" & the same "wear"

    Please are this jacket & this pants original ?

    Thanks for replies.

    Happy New Year 2012.

    Regards.
    Carfin.

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    Default Re: Help please. Pz SS leather jacket & pants

    Hi Carfin, KM is not my "thing". But this is not the pattern of uniform worn by LAH & HJ.

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Default Re: Help please. Pz SS leather jacket & pants

    I believe that KM (if we are talking Kriegsmarine) guys usually wore the light grey leather sets? I am quite confused about this KM/SS thing though

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    Hi Carfin, KM is not my "thing". But this is not the pattern of uniform worn by LAH & HJ.

    Cheers, Ade.
    I agree with the above. There is no shortage of visual evidence of the proper U boat Montur or of their use by SS armor troops.
    damit, basta.

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    Default Re: Help please. Pz SS leather jacket & pants

    Many period photos of the Hitler Jugend Divison show the panzer crews wearing U Boat leathers in Normandy !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Quote by Paul E View Post
    Many period photos of the Hitler Jugend Divison show the panzer crews wearing U Boat leathers in Normandy !!
    Yes they did!

    When Italy surrendered in 1943 stocks of Italian camouflage material was seized by the Germans as well as a large number of U-boat leathers (originally supplied to Italy by Germany) which were taken from naval depots. They seized a considerable number of these and issued them to tank crews of the panzer regiments of the 12th SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend. They were very simple in design being waist length, single breasted fastened with five metal or plastic buttons with either a cropped or normal collar and adjustable cuff bands. They had a single breast pocket with a small flap and two front waist pockets and were lined as was the jacket with coarse woolen blanket material. The trousers were straight legged with two side pockets. Originally worn by U-boat mechanics they provided considerable protection from grease, dirt and burns.
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Paul E and Stickgrenade: thanks for that info

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    Hi,

    Thank you very much for all replies & for comments "stickgrenade".

    So, if I have good understand, the pants are a good piece
    & the jacket perhaps!!!
    OK ?

    Regards.
    Carfin.

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    Default Re: Help please. Pz SS leather jacket & pants

    Hello,

    I have had a jacket and pants in my collection a few years ago.
    The pants looks ok but the jacket is not a KM style, looks like a Motorcycle one.
    I never see this kind of stamps on KM clothes.
    Regards
    Nikolaus

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    Default Re: Help please. Pz SS leather jacket & pants

    Hi Nikolaus,

    Danke für Ihre antwort. Thanks for reply.

    Please look on a vidéo on "facebook" you can see surrender of german panzer troops in Bohémia 5/9/1945 with black leather pants & jacket plus a complete leather combi.
    Unfortunately I can not copy the photos.

    Regards.
    Carfin.

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