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Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.

Article about: as appeared elsewhere, these are fakes, which should fool no one.

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    Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.The cap of the Schweriner Montur, which is from Hannover, actually. I am not sure how that worked out, but there you are.....


    Schwerin
    Germany
    Get on A24 in Bandenitz from B106 and B321
    26 min (23.2 km)
    Continue on A24. Take A7 to Vahrenwalder Str. in Hannover
    2 h 1 min (224 km)
    Drive to Münzstraße
    12 min (6.0 km)
    Hanover
    Germany

    Photos: Shea.
    Last edited by Friedrich-Berthold; 03-30-2015 at 06:07 AM.
    damit, basta.

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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.The cap of the Schweriner Montur, which is from Hannover, actually. I am not sure how that worked out, but there you are.....
    That is a beautiful cap of earlier make. Thanks for the nice photos, especially the one highlighting the nice wool textile.

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    Quote by DrCMH View Post
    That is a beautiful cap of earlier make. Thanks for the nice photos, especially the one highlighting the nice wool textile.
    Thanks. It is an extraordinary cap without any RZM-ing.

    The initials AK give a clue, especially if you measure the cap size and then go through all the personnel files to ascertain the sizes of the Koepfe.

    My life is already cut short, so this project awaits the next owner in the unending procession of time.

    The bad news, and there is usually a kicker, that there are spaces for two more zinc Buschstaben in the sweat band, and these have been carefully extracted.
    So the name is AKXX or whatever.....
    damit, basta.

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    QK.pdf The past gives few easy answers to our questions, and someone who believes otherwise hardly merits your attention.

    Do put this ppt. through the Google translator and think about it when you read here.....

    It took me many, many years of advanced study to learn these things.
    damit, basta.

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    Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Who among our wise and astute readers can decipher the screamer error made with these patches?
    damit, basta.

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    Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.a hint:

    Tableau of collar patches courtesy the Delich Schatzkammer!

    Picture from v. Ekeling, Atelier FB, but thanks to Peter Jenkins!
    Last edited by Friedrich-Berthold; 03-30-2015 at 06:08 AM.
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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Who among our wise and astute readers can decipher the screamer error made with these patches?
    The Paspel is not correct for this rank during the period where embroidery was in white silk. Per Mollo, as of May 1933 the rank of SS-Obertruppführer would be bordered by 1.5mm white twisted cord. Moving forward from October of 1934, the Kragenspiegel would be bordered by 1.5 mm black and aluminum twisted cord. The evolution from white silk, to grey, and, finally, to aluminum embroidery in the middle of 1937 would serve to help distinguish the earlier tunics from those of late. The examples in question appear to be bordered by white and black twisted cord, similar to the SA type, I believe. According to Mollo, the Mitteiliungsblatt der RZM No. 4 (6/23/34) lists the regulations for the white embroidery (ranks up to Stabsscharführer), however, when did the regulations exactly allow for the grey silk to be utilized?

    Note the shoulder cord as well, also changed to black and Aluminium in October 1934. Prior to October of 1934, this would have been appropriate for ranks up to Obertruppführer.


    Not to mention that embroidery and that Litzen that nobody is comfortable with...pfui!

    A grey silk embroidered tab ca. 1936 for comparison:
    Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.

    We see in FB's hint above the rank of Sturmführer which, pre October '34, would be the starting rank that would have the twisted Aluminium and black Paspel as outlined in the Mitteiliungsblatt der RZM of 6/23/34.
    Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.

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    Bravo.
    damit, basta.

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    Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.Lousy Allgemeine SS insignia and tunic.The transition from the white silk embroidery to the grey silk embroidery was in 1935 if memory serves. I included it somewhere.
    Last edited by Friedrich-Berthold; 03-30-2015 at 03:57 AM.
    damit, basta.

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    Thank you, FB, for the further data regarding the change from weißer Bestickung to silbergrauer Bestickung.

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